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bespoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying beast has been found

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and is now in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black it's your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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to fate to flag with jimmy church on the

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game changer network

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good evening

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payton black

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bespoke radio

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masses yeah

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how are you doing today's monday october

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2020. let's do this

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293 days into the new year only

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73 days left

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we are live from a bunker

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a bunker that is somewhere in the middle

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down

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east and west north and south far and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and ktra

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the planets i'm your host jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody

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how you doing all right

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what a great week we've got lined up on

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the show holy crap

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that's how you it's our haunted

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yeah all right

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tonight tonight very special guest

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continuing our haunted rocktober

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ap sylvia is here

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that's right gonna be talking

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vampires all night long i got hair

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coming down into my my hair i've had

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one haircut this year one

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it's it's october 19th

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i've had one haircut it's long man

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my my stuff's starting to get long it's

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starting to get long so i gotta i gotta

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i gotta go do i gotta go get me another

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anyway it's long it's long it's just

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all right i'll be all right tonight it's

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vampires

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tomorrow night aidan sinclair

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becca knight and susan slaughter right

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here

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on this show we're gonna be discussing

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our halloween weekend on the queen mary

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yeah man that's gonna be amazing

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wednesday night

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it's the return of the one and only

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richard bleep and dolan right here

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we're going to be discussing haven't had

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richard on it's you know we've had a

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busy couple of months

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and i know what it seems like uh you

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know

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richard was on seems like every month

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it's been a few months since richard's

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been on the show

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and uh man i was like i got to get my

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richard fix on

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got to get my dolin fix on and he's

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going to be here wednesday night all of

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the ufo uap

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news that you can handle

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sarah and hair envy i know there's

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people out there without here

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yeah yeah my brother danny bald

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everybody's bald in my family except for

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me

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and uh and it's just long and

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it's long it's long it's long it's just

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crazy like just

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you know there you go thursday night's

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another fader night open lines

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all light long okay all night long all

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where am i at uh i was just talking

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about

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uh aiden becca and susan they're gonna

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be with us tomorrow night

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uh that's because next week i can't

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believe it halloween is here halloween

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is here next week

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october 29th through november 1st four

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days of ghost hunting

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on the queen mary that's right the

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haunted weekend with the queen

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you can go and check out everything just

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we have the links up at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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there's a banner right there you'll see

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the queen mary click on that

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head over get registered use the promo

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code

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jimmy you're going to get another

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discount which is really really cool

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because you're a fader not and you

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deserve those

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things fade or not uh have privileges

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okay so you can go and do that uh music

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ghost hunting celebrities all of that is

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friday night friday night the 30th i

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will be down on the queen mary

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doing an actual ghost hunt and you get

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to go down and hang out with me live

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virtually all the cameras are there when

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you go and register you can see it all

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lined up

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really looking forward to this so that's

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going down next week

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uh all weekend long october 29th through

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1st okay i'll be there friday night and

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everything is simple to do now also

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crystal skulls

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i i just want to say all of you fader

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knots with all of your crystal skulls is

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just amazing i'm going to start posting

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pictures i've got

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a folder full i'm going to start posting

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those you know what i'm going to do that

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tomorrow night it's

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uh so yeah that that's a good shot i'll

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get i'll get all of those up tomorrow

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night

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but head over to einstein the crystal

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skull.com

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and the links are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com click and there

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also use the promo code jimmy you will

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get 10

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off of your crystal skull order today

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you know you want one

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want a second one

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you just want to add to your collection

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or you want your first crystal skull

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that's where you go carolyn ford she's

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so cool

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it's fun to deal with and and

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communicate with and just pick out the

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right skull for you

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of hair i you know

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some hair and all of it gray for some

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jimmy jimmychurchradio.com let's get

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straight to the breaking news

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a tsunami warning was just issued before

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showtime tonight

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for a preliminary magnitude of 7.5

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the warning was for the alaskan

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peninsula and south alaska according to

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the national tsunami

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warning center in palmer alaska

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the earthquake's epicenter was recorded

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less than 60 miles from sand point near

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ah

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with just 73 days left in 2020 nasa has

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one but five asteroids are passing by

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as the agency's a cirrus rex osiris-rex

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spacecraft prepares to touch down on a

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space rock 200 million miles away

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the first three of the day's five space

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already passed by the earth without

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incident according to the asteroid watch

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still to come are 14 meter 2020

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uk with a diameter roughly the length of

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million miles lastus will be the fastest

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that's right the one meter wide 2020 tf6

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which will shoot by at a speed of 26 800

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just 95 000 miles away

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that's how close it's only a meter you

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but yeah five asteroids today

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dun dun dun november

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2nd that's right the night

286
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before the national election the cow

287
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sized space junk has only a 0.41 chance

288
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of making impact with the atmosphere

289
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but that's close it's going to whiz by

290
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it's going to whiz

291
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if it were to impact us it's you know

292
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it's

293
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disintegrate the atmosphere no

294
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no harm no foul right well remember

295
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election day

296
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in the united states is november third

297
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the small extraterrestrial rock

298
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named 2018 vp1 vice president

299
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one was first observed on

300
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dun dun dun november 3rd

301
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2018. that's crazy isn't it

302
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all right it's going down man it's going

303
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down in two weeks

304
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skip the show cracking happy birthday

305
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too south park's

306
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trey parker today is 51. john favreau

307
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today is 54. john lithgow

308
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today is 75 peter tosh

309
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jamaican rock star today is 76.

310
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lyricist keith reed is

311
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74. who is keith reed keith reed

312
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wrote every word of every song that had

313
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lyrics to it

314
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for protocol harem including

315
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the whiter shade of pale

316
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today keith reed is 74. the doobie

317
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brothers patrick

318
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simmons taking it to the streets

319
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today is 72. on this day in history

320
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1781 yep went down in yorktown

321
00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:20,000
british general lord cornwallis

322
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surrenders at yorktown virginia

323
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he turned over 8 000 british soldiers

324
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and

325
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semen 144 cannons

326
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15 galleys those are boats a frigate

327
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that's a bigger boat

328
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and 30 transport ships to a larger

329
00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:40,000
franco-american force and for those of

330
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you out there that don't know what

331
00:17:46,870 --> 00:17:43,679
franco is that's french

332
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effectively bringing an end to the

333
00:17:51,150 --> 00:17:47,840
american

334
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revolution on this day in

335
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1781 fader fact

336
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do you know what a key logger is well

337
00:17:58,630 --> 00:17:57,760
let me tell you what a key logger is

338
00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:58,640
then i'm going to hit you with this

339
00:18:02,710 --> 00:17:59,360
fader fact

340
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a keylogger is a program a chunk of

341
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software

342
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that when you're typing your keyboard

343
00:18:10,789 --> 00:18:06,799
will tell somebody

344
00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:10,799
what you are typing that is a keylogger

345
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:14,640
it's a scary piece of software

346
00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:19,440
right right here's your fader fact

347
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:22,720
the soviets bugged at least

348
00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:26,880
16 ibm selectric typewriters electric

349
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:28,160
twos and selectric

350
00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:31,120
threes at the u.s embassy in moscow in

351
00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:34,400
the us consulate in leningrad

352
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with one of the world's first key

353
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:38,640
loggers

354
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that's right the circuitry was inside of

355
00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:43,760
a supporting bar

356
00:18:46,789 --> 00:18:46,000
in the typewriter those typewriters were

357
00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:46,799
heavy

358
00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:50,160
mechanical pretty badass

359
00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:54,640
right well had a framework on the inside

360
00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:57,520
all of the circuitry was in this tube

361
00:19:03,190 --> 00:18:59,280
[Music]

362
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:03,200
that's right capturing text by measuring

363
00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:06,240
magnetic disturbance as the print head

364
00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:10,480
moved this was sent by radio burst

365
00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:20,390
and that is your fader fact tonight very

366
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:22,320
special guest continuing

367
00:19:28,470 --> 00:19:25,360
our haunted rocktober is ap sylvia

368
00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:28,480
he's here to discuss vampires all night

369
00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:29,919
long the history the folklore

370
00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:32,480
yeah the accounts it's gonna be great

371
00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:34,400
tomorrow night aiden sinclair

372
00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:37,120
becca knight and susan slaughter join us

373
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,360
to discuss our halloween weekend that's

374
00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:42,240
coming up next week on the queen mary

375
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:43,679
wednesday night it's the return of

376
00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:46,000
richard dolan for the latest ufo uap

377
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,919
news from around the world

378
00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:49,679
thursday night is another fader night

379
00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:51,679
with open lines all night long now i'm

380
00:20:00,870 --> 00:19:52,000
gonna

381
00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:02,470
we've got new links we've got everything

382
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:04,240
up for river moon coffee

383
00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:07,039
their brand new website nice page right

384
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:07,840
there

385
00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:10,320
with uh with our coffee and all of our

386
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:11,919
new black moon

387
00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:14,080
products you've got to go and check it

388
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:16,000
out you know what that promo code is f2b

389
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:17,120
blend

390
00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:20,720
all right well

391
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:24,080
well well well where do i start

392
00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:26,000
man i need to start by hitting his

393
00:20:40,870 --> 00:20:37,110
it's like this here we are

394
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:40,880
on another monday getting ready to kick

395
00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:43,760
off another week here on fade to black

396
00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:47,280
which means that we also just came off

397
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:48,000
of another

398
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:57,909
and i have to say this weekend was just

399
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:00,320
about the craziest yet

400
00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:04,000
in all of recorded history

401
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:07,120
and i mean that and

402
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:10,480
before i cover some of the insanity of

403
00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:13,280
the past two or three days

404
00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:16,480
let me state the obvious we are

405
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:19,280
exactly two weeks away from our

406
00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:21,520
presidential election

407
00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:24,240
and you must expect that the crazy talk

408
00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:27,440
from both sides is about to heat up

409
00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:30,960
yes even hotter than anything

410
00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:35,200
in the past year now as everyone knows i

411
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:37,600
don't do politics on this show

412
00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:41,280
nope and i just don't do it

413
00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:43,440
and i'm not going to change things right

414
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:45,039
now

415
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:46,480
i'm not going to do it tonight i'm not

416
00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:48,640
going to do whatever it's not going to

417
00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:49,120
do it

418
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:55,990
when you follow conspiracy theory as

419
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,120
much as i do

420
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:59,200
it has always been a challenge to keep

421
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:01,440
up on things over the years

422
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:05,520
some conspiracies are very complex

423
00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:08,640
some are not but you have to pick and

424
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:10,640
choose which ones you're going to go

425
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:13,039
deep with you have to because they can

426
00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:14,000
take up nearly

427
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:18,559
all of your spare time right now

428
00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,240
anywhere on the net you may go

429
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:24,640
be it conventional news sources or the

430
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:26,080
fringe and everywhere

431
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:29,120
in between you can find literally

432
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:31,039
thousands of different conspiracy

433
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:33,039
theories coming at you from

434
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:36,320
every corner of the demographic

435
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:38,000
doesn't matter what side you find

436
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:39,600
yourselves on

437
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:42,960
nope you have conspiracies

438
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,400
you believe in that are about the other

439
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:48,240
side

440
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:51,039
get it and then there are an equal

441
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:52,880
amount of conspiracies

442
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:56,400
pointed back at you on the shady side of

443
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:58,000
the fence

444
00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:01,360
that's right i said it way before it was

445
00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:03,120
popular by the way

446
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:05,600
and i may have been the first but it's

447
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:07,039
really simple

448
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:12,000
conspiracy has become the new normal

449
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:15,600
right now in real time i could rattle

450
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:16,159
off

451
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:20,400
50 different theories that all overlap

452
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:24,559
that cross oceans people religions races

453
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,559
economics geopolitics health and

454
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:28,080
entertainment

455
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:32,400
all at once yeah

456
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:36,480
it's crazy now it's just crazy and to be

457
00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,480
honest

458
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:40,799
if just one of these conspiracy theories

459
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:44,159
would pan out to actually be true

460
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:48,400
everything we know would unravel

461
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:51,840
it would just one because they

462
00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:55,360
all overlapped they all into you can get

463
00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:57,039
a conspiracy theory

464
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:00,159
about kittens from

465
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:04,640
pick a country from from

466
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:11,190
from hawaii from

467
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:15,200
taiwan from russia

468
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,000
and you can get that to tie into a black

469
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,480
lives matter protest in downtown

470
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:22,080
sheboygan

471
00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:30,789
so

472
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:33,110
i just wanted i i just want one to bust

473
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:34,240
out

474
00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:37,360
to be true

475
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,110
it could it how do i say this

476
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:49,360
it would be the coolest most amazing

477
00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:51,760
thing scariest thing

478
00:24:58,830 --> 00:24:54,880
intimidating thing frightening thing and

479
00:25:03,750 --> 00:24:59,990
ever

480
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:03,760
but one of the most far-out

481
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:07,120
conspiracies that i really had my

482
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:10,400
fingers crossed for

483
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:21,750
i did i did i admit it i admit it

484
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:24,240
now as reported by most of the media

485
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:25,679
over the weekend

486
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,080
junior was supposed to show up at a

487
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:30,240
trump rally in dallas

488
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:34,000
that's right on october 17th

489
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:36,559
and he was going to replace mike pence

490
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:38,960
as the president's running mate

491
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:42,240
holy crap right now to be sure

492
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,720
if this actually happened on the 17th

493
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:46,720
the world as we know it would have

494
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:47,440
changed

495
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:50,559
forever i had my fingers crossed

496
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:53,600
i really wanted this to happen

497
00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:57,360
oh man but

498
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:01,919
it didn't and i was pretty bummed out

499
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:04,799
and i also know this is where i'm gonna

500
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:05,120
be

501
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,400
very serious i also know that deep down

502
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:10,000
inside nobody not

503
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:12,559
even you really believed it would go

504
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:13,600
down

505
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:16,240
but we were just waiting we just wanted

506
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:17,440
to see that maybe

507
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:22,159
just once the crazy would happen

508
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,679
it did not now when it comes to all of

509
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:27,760
these different conspiracy theories

510
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,120
i don't see red or blue i sit right in

511
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:33,360
the middle and i watch both sides go at

512
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,720
it it's amazing to witness

513
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:39,600
i can sit down with anyone from any side

514
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:40,640
any color

515
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:43,440
whatever and shoot holes into the most

516
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:44,080
crazy

517
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:46,880
that is going down right now i can do it

518
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,360
both

519
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:49,520
it doesn't matter what it is i can shoot

520
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:50,400
it down

521
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,440
but here's the thing nobody wants to

522
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:55,600
hear it

523
00:27:03,590 --> 00:26:59,760
everybody is completely blind to it

524
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:03,600
no matter what you say everybody seems

525
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:05,760
to be taking the bait

526
00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:11,600
and to be clear everyone can't be right

527
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:14,880
and most are totally wrong and very

528
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:18,640
very little is based on fact

529
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:22,320
that's where we are today and right now

530
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:24,960
it seems that nobody cares

531
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:33,190
nobody today i read the craziest

532
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:34,080
conspiracy

533
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:36,080
theory ever and i'm not kidding about

534
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:39,440
this now i can't go into the details

535
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:42,960
but let me say this about it it was so

536
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:47,360
vile it was so wrong so

537
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,080
you know what i can't even comment i

538
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:51,840
can't i'll say this much

539
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:55,120
just saying on the air what i

540
00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:58,399
read today and it would probably be the

541
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:01,039
last time you ever hear from me

542
00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:04,799
but as i read it i said to myself

543
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,470
i know that there are people out there

544
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:12,480
who live a life that is dark

545
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:15,039
that is underground and it's away from

546
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:16,240
us i'm not

547
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:20,240
naive but right now

548
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,039
some of this twisted stuff is making its

549
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:25,120
way up to the surface

550
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:28,320
and someone something is using it to

551
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:30,000
mess with the good minds of

552
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:31,919
decent people who make up the vast

553
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:33,600
majority of everyone

554
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,480
on this planet i'm starting to suspect

555
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,240
an outside influence

556
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:41,120
like as in uh not in the united states

557
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,880
type of origin

558
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:44,720
of these different types of conspiracy

559
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:45,840
theories i don't think they come from

560
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:46,960
the united states i don't think they

561
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:48,399
come from people you know i don't think

562
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:49,760
they come from the red they would come

563
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:50,880
from the blue

564
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:52,799
they come from the black the white

565
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:54,559
inside of the united states they

566
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:58,320
do not they don't but you're taking the

567
00:29:02,630 --> 00:28:59,440
bait on it

568
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:02,640
it's somebody messing with your head

569
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:04,159
right now with all of the other things

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that we are dealing with here in this

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country specifically the pandemic and

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jobs and economy and racism

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and of course the election it's the

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perfect opportunity for somebody to

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screw

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with you and it seems to be working

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so yes you can expect that over the next

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two weeks

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things are going to really get nuts

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from both sides from every side

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right now i don't know how we've managed

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to survive

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2020 but we've gotten this far and we're

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almost at the finish line

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there are only 73 days left until

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2021 so listen folks hang in there

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it'll all work out pinky promise

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everything that i just said was vetted

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i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

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to black tonight

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right here ap sylvia we are going to be

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discussing vampires now

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before i get to the break i want you to

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understand that last year

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websites shared over one

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100 trillion place pieces

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of personal data on the net this data

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was taken

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on users just like you from various

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websites

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i am your host jimmy church this is fade

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to black on the game changer network and

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kgr a the planet

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on the game changer network and this is

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as we kick this off this is haunted

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rocktober

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we've got amazing guests lined up all

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the way through the end of the month

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i want everybody to have a great safe

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fun halloween it's one of my favorite

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times of the year

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i'll be right back after this short

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break with tonight's guest

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ap sylvia i'm your host jimmy church

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right after the break they're not in

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you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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jimmy church radio

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church

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somebody just tweeted what is that on

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the front of jimmy's shirt

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it was wood chips doing a bunch of work

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over at the house before i got the

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studios covered

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in and stuff and uh i thought i got it

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all off but it was

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it was just it was all over me my pants

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too

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dust that was

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the dust oh man

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but anyway i thought i got it all off

766
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thanks for the heads up

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all right continuing our haunted

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rocktober tonight our guest is ap

769
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sylvia and we're going to be talking

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vampires tonight the famous and infamous

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accounts from the past locations

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folklore history

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and how we have interpreted the world

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around them ap has long been interested

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in supernatural beliefs

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and their origins he has explored the

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essential

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has visited various vampire related

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locations we'll be talking about all of

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that tonight he runs the blog

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locationsoflore.com

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and his first book vampires of lore

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traits and modern misconceptions

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was published last year in 2019 and is

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available

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at all of the traditional online

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booksellers his website of course

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is locations of lore.com the links are

789
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over at jimmychurchradio.com

790
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and i would like to welcome for the

791
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first time to fade to black ap sylvia

792
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,480
ap good evening man uh not quite good

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morning where you are but how you

794
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i'm doing well thank you so much for

795
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having me on okay i've

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uh your volume is low

797
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okay wow okay we have got low volume

798
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there ap

799
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:32,240
just did a sound check too i know

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okay turn turn your side up

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how about now okay that's better and you

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could probably go hotter

803
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how about now okay now we got you hey

804
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there you go

805
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okay see i was nervous i was like man we

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just just said

807
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we just did it all right now before we

808
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get started ap

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you get the first time guest disclaimer

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so

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let's get that out of the way the next

812
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time you're on with this you don't get

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it tonight it's the privilege of getting

814
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the first time does uh guest disclaimer

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which is

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uh ap it's just you and i sitting on my

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couch having a conversation as friends

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where the conversation starts it starts

819
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where it ends it ends

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00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,400
but we're gonna end his friends there

821
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you go all right

822
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:18,000
so are you ready i'm ready

823
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okay that's uh man you got radio pipes

824
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man you got a future

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um is is this

826
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the world of vampires and i've got a lot

827
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of friends

828
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:32,000
uh that are in to it

829
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and and study it and research and write

830
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books and things

831
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and they are just into the culture

832
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,480
but all of them and and i love each and

833
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:44,240
every one but all of them are just a

834
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:46,720
little bit off the center

835
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:49,839
what got you here was it was it a crazy

836
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childhood was there something else going

837
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on

838
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:56,320
well um you know ever since i was a

839
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child i've always sort of been

840
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interested

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in um you know supernatural and scary

842
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things and stuff like that

843
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just just you know some something i

844
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liked you know whenever

845
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if ever there was an episode that was

846
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like the halloween episode of something

847
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i was always i was always excited for

848
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that i know you know maybe some kids are

849
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you know they they kind of get scared by

850
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:18,400
things and stuff but i i was always you

851
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,800
know

852
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,319
ready for more like oh boy this is the

853
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:22,319
monster episode i can't wait

854
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:25,040
um even a while back i was going through

855
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:25,520
some of

856
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,000
when i was a kid and i ran across

857
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,720
this uh this book about ghosts that was

858
00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:34,720
you know intended for kids that

859
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:37,359
my my mother had purchased for me at

860
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:38,720
like a children's museum or something

861
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:39,359
like that and i

862
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:40,640
loved this ghost book when i was a kid

863
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:42,079
because it talked all about different

864
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:44,319
beliefs from different places and things

865
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:44,800
and

866
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,040
um so i was always just sort of sort of

867
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:49,359
interested in that in that kind of topic

868
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:51,760
um you know really like uh really like a

869
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:52,960
scary story

870
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:55,200
um you know when i was when i was in

871
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,000
grade school

872
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:58,800
um these uh these books that i really i

873
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,920
really liked there was

874
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:01,760
the the trilogy i think probably many

875
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:03,680
people are aware of the scary stories

876
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:05,520
telling the dark

877
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,520
those you know those were those were

878
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,960
great um

879
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:10,560
you know i remember i remember buying

880
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:12,000
those at like a book fair or something

881
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:13,040
at school

882
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:15,680
um and uh i just uh just you know

883
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:16,800
devoured those

884
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:18,160
and i like those too because they were

885
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:20,000
they were actually like folkloric

886
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:21,599
tales and so that was something that

887
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:23,040
kind of interested interested me too

888
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,160
even as a child

889
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:26,480
how you know there were beliefs that

890
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:27,760
were kind of held

891
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:30,240
um by you know different people in

892
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:31,359
different places

893
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,760
um it wasn't necessarily just considered

894
00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:35,760
fiction like a like a movie or something

895
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:37,599
like that that there are actual

896
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:39,599
you know accounts that people you know

897
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:41,359
believed to be true or reflected

898
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:44,240
certain sort of uh you know fears in the

899
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:45,760
culture and that kind of thing

900
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,599
so i've always sort of been been

901
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:48,880
interested in it

902
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:52,400
um what really got me on probably the

903
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,880
the vampire track uh and sort of what

904
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:56,880
got me into writing my book

905
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:00,000
um was uh you know some years ago now

906
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:03,280
i was uh i was in new york city

907
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:06,160
uh in times square with uh with my

908
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:07,920
girlfriend who's now my wife

909
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:09,760
and uh we were walking around kind of

910
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,680
the you know the seeing the sights and

911
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:13,359
the bright lights of times square

912
00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:16,079
and we came across a a ripley's believe

913
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,599
it or not museum

914
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:19,119
and i'm not sure if you've ever been to

915
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,640
one of those i have

916
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:22,800
i've i've walked past the one in times

917
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:24,560
square never went in we have another one

918
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:25,599
here in hollywood

919
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:27,280
uh yeah i've been to that one as well

920
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:29,200
yes right right uh yeah they're great

921
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:30,079
they're great so i've

922
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,760
i've been i've been to a few of them and

923
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:33,680
um i i just

924
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,599
i just love those i love the oddities i

925
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:37,200
love i love all the curiosities and

926
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:38,640
stuff like that they're great

927
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:41,359
um so you know we went into that one we

928
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:42,720
were walking around

929
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:44,640
um in one of the rooms in the times

930
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,760
square when they kind of have

931
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:47,040
you know it's kind of this sort of

932
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:48,640
dungeness room i think with you know

933
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,280
kind of

934
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:52,079
you know spooky atmosphere and one of

935
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:53,599
the objects they had on display

936
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:56,720
was this um it was uh like this

937
00:43:01,109 --> 00:43:00,000
vintage box fill filled with like vials

938
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,119
and a steak

939
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:03,040
and like a mold for silver bullets and

940
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:04,240
stuff like that

941
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:07,280
and it was the uh the

942
00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:08,960
the card associated to it said that it

943
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:10,880
was um a

944
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,079
an antique vampire killing kit from the

945
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,480
1800s that people supposedly

946
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:18,319
uh would would buy if they were going to

947
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:19,839
eastern europe or something like that

948
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:21,520
and just the aesthetic of this thing was

949
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:23,040
fantastic

950
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:26,000
uh and i really i really liked it so um

951
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,920
after after that trip after i was

952
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:29,760
back home i sort of just uh i kept

953
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,079
thinking about about that kit

954
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:34,160
and i was like i need to i need to learn

955
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:35,359
more about this thing what's the story

956
00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:36,240
behind this

957
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:39,920
so i uh i took to the internet and uh

958
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,200
actually found out that there was

959
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:43,520
um some controversy surrounding these

960
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:44,240
kits

961
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:46,160
while ripley's uh maintains that they

962
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:47,520
are authentic pieces

963
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:50,079
um other people argue that they are

964
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:51,599
actually

965
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,560
they were assembled in the 20th century

966
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,640
using vintage pieces

967
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,800
um so an actual vampire killing kit

968
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,400
isn't wouldn't be period

969
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:02,000
uh and one of the arguments was that

970
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:03,839
well these kits reflect kind of movie

971
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:05,760
vampires and not necessarily

972
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:09,119
uh folkloric vampires and that's

973
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:11,200
what that that kind of notion really

974
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:12,560
sort of got me on this track of like

975
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:13,280
well

976
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,040
what is the difference between our

977
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:17,280
modern notions about vampires

978
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:20,240
and the actual folkloric beliefs of the

979
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:21,520
past

980
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:23,200
and you know i have what you know i've

981
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:24,160
watched a number of sort of

982
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:25,440
documentaries about

983
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,200
about vampires and stuff like that in

984
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:29,359
the past you know whenever one of those

985
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,319
comes on

986
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:31,920
um so i had some sense that you know

987
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:33,520
yeah there's there's definitely some

988
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:36,720
some differences there um but

989
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,800
i ended up sort of looking i i kind of

990
00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:40,160
wanted a breakdown like

991
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,119
well i want give me sort of a piece by

992
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:45,119
piece trait by trait analysis

993
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:47,280
of kind of what we think of vampires and

994
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:48,880
what the actual beliefs were and i

995
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:50,720
couldn't find anything that really

996
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:53,280
gave me a broad overview like that kind

997
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:54,000
of went through

998
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:56,640
everything and so i started doing

999
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:58,400
research i started reading books about

1000
00:45:03,109 --> 00:44:58,800
it

1001
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:03,119
that i wanted to read

1002
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:05,280
and so that's sort of how i kind of

1003
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:06,480
wound up where i am

1004
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:09,440
uh having authored this book about about

1005
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:10,160
uh

1006
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:11,839
about vampire folklore where sort of

1007
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:13,920
this this culmination of my interests

1008
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,200
you know from childhood

1009
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:17,520
and my enjoyment of you know sort of

1010
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,319
spooky things and supernatural beliefs

1011
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:22,560
um and then sort of my maybe my my

1012
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:23,359
academic

1013
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:25,119
interests my sort of puzzle solving

1014
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:26,480
interest almost of trying to figure

1015
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:27,680
something out

1016
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:30,560
yeah when i was a kid and i am not the

1017
00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:32,079
exception here i

1018
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:34,720
i think it it's pretty much the rule but

1019
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:36,160
when i was a kid

1020
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:38,720
you know you had the count on sesame

1021
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,440
street

1022
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:41,440
right and you're watching this guy when

1023
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:43,920
you're five years old four years old

1024
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:46,319
you see that you're eating count chocula

1025
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:47,440
cereal

1026
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:50,560
and you're uh watching

1027
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:53,440
the vampire movies and then you have the

1028
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:54,720
halloween

1029
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:57,760
vampires were real i to me

1030
00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:00,640
right and and i just think that we all

1031
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:01,920
accepted

1032
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:04,720
that vampires were just something that

1033
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:05,440
was uh

1034
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,960
just normal and and i was okay with that

1035
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,480
and then you kind of grow up and it

1036
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:12,000
turns into

1037
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:13,920
like santa claus right you get your

1038
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:15,920
heart broken a little bit

1039
00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:18,720
but then you jump into some research and

1040
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:20,079
then you find out

1041
00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:24,720
about uh the history of vampirism and

1042
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:27,520
and how far back it goes and that this

1043
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:28,160
is uh

1044
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:31,440
some which is more scary of course

1045
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,800
than the count on sesame street and you

1046
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:36,640
start to accept

1047
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,720
what was going on in the past as an

1048
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:40,560
adult and then you kind of

1049
00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:42,160
are stuck in the middle you don't grow

1050
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,920
up as an adult and find out that santa

1051
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:45,040
claus was actually

1052
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:48,800
real right you don't you don't have that

1053
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,400
did you go through those same kinds of

1054
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,400
changes you know it's

1055
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,960
it's it's definitely kind of a an

1056
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,000
interesting process to

1057
00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:58,000
start looking back at the history of

1058
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:59,599
things and i definitely think it gives

1059
00:47:03,270 --> 00:46:59,920
you

1060
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:03,280
a new perspective on on vampires

1061
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,880
because you know as you said you know as

1062
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:06,800
a kid you you you know

1063
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:08,960
you see these kind of fun vampires

1064
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:10,800
cartoon vampires halloween

1065
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,960
halloween vampire right it's sort of a

1066
00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:13,920
you you know there's a sort of

1067
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:14,960
ubiquitous

1068
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:17,760
imagery in our culture right of the van

1069
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,880
of the vampire and it's

1070
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:20,800
it's movies and it's fun and stuff like

1071
00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:22,720
that um

1072
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:25,119
but you know it's i think sometimes sort

1073
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:27,520
of easy for us to forget in a way that

1074
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:31,359
there was a time when people were were

1075
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:33,680
very scared of vampires that to to the

1076
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:34,800
people of the time

1077
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:37,599
vampires were a very real thing a very

1078
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:38,000
real

1079
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,839
threat to them and they would

1080
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:43,920
behave accordingly they would take

1081
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:45,440
action against

1082
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:48,559
the supposed vampire so it adds new it

1083
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:50,160
adds a new dimension it brings it out of

1084
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:51,359
kind of the realm of

1085
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:53,599
of horror movies and kind of something

1086
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:54,559
that sort of

1087
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:57,760
like fun to something that um actually

1088
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:58,800
can be kind of you know

1089
00:48:01,430 --> 00:48:00,319
kind of somber and sobering when you

1090
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:01,440
really sort of put yourself in the

1091
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:02,880
mindset of people

1092
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:05,839
who were living through these these

1093
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:06,800
fears

1094
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,760
um so it's it's an interesting evolution

1095
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:11,200
you know from as as you mentioned sort

1096
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:12,880
of going from childhood with the count

1097
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:15,680
and and you know that sort of thing um

1098
00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:16,160
through

1099
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:20,319
you sort of just sort of becomes part of

1100
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:21,920
the movie culture to then

1101
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:23,760
for for me actually looking at all the

1102
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:25,599
historical historical accounts and then

1103
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,960
realizing like oh you know this was

1104
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:28,720
this was serious business to some people

1105
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:30,240
at certain times now

1106
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,160
what's your family uh how are they

1107
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:36,319
uh about your research and and the

1108
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:37,359
writing of this book

1109
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:40,960
are they also into this or or what was

1110
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:42,720
their reaction like

1111
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,200
yeah i think that i think they were i uh

1112
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:47,280
i uh i think i think that they found it

1113
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,160
very interesting

1114
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:50,400
um they uh you know like my parents

1115
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:51,359
checked out the

1116
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,040
they enjoyed it and i know they

1117
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:57,119
i'm sure they're listening right now uh

1118
00:49:01,990 --> 00:48:58,720
so i can say hi to them

1119
00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:02,000
um my uh you know actually my my

1120
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:05,599
sister has uh uh gone with me when we

1121
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:06,480
visited um

1122
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:09,599
some uh some vampire vampire sites in

1123
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:10,640
the area

1124
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:14,559
um and um my my wife is very supportive

1125
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:15,440
of uh

1126
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:17,920
of my my endeavors here and uh he's

1127
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:18,480
always

1128
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,760
you know wishing me good luck with all

1129
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:21,359
this stuff so now everyone everyone's

1130
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:23,200
really been great i don't think anyone's

1131
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:24,480
i don't think anyone's looking at me

1132
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:26,000
like oh this is pretty strange i mean i

1133
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,440
i think everyone knew i was already kind

1134
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:29,119
of a strange guy so

1135
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,319
quite frankly i don't think anyone's

1136
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:32,960
that surprised yeah so it's not like at

1137
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:33,839
thanksgiving

1138
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:35,920
you know some family member oh count

1139
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:37,440
dracula's here

1140
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:39,839
you know it's not quite like that

1141
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:41,280
they're supportive

1142
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:43,040
no ever you know every everyone in in my

1143
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:45,119
family has been very supportive very

1144
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:45,839
interested

1145
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:47,359
even my extended family people have been

1146
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:48,960
buying the book and stuff like that to

1147
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,319
you know help me out and

1148
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:51,920
um you know they're excited about it and

1149
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:53,359
so i think that's i think it's great so

1150
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:55,040
everyone's everyone's been

1151
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,040
been really nice about it and they they

1152
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:59,040
they like it i think they think it's fun

1153
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:01,920
um and it is fun now there's another

1154
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:03,040
aspect to this too

1155
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:06,800
because not like uh the mummy

1156
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:10,559
or or frankenstein or the wolf man

1157
00:50:16,109 --> 00:50:12,960
nobody wants to be the wolf man right

1158
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:16,119
nobody wants to be frankenstein

1159
00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:19,839
everybody wants to be a vampire

1160
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,119
yes right right absolutely absolutely

1161
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:25,119
absolutely what's not to love right you

1162
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:26,400
live forever

1163
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:29,200
you get all the best stuff and and you

1164
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,079
have fun

1165
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:32,640
and and you and you work at night right

1166
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,240
you sleep all day

1167
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:36,960
i i guess you know it's like sign me up

1168
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:37,760
and and there

1169
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:41,040
was the element of cool right that that

1170
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:42,000
came along with

1171
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:44,720
with vampires oh absolutely absolutely i

1172
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:45,839
mean and that's

1173
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:48,640
i and that is very much kind of you know

1174
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:49,520
that's been sort of

1175
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,160
a a modern well i should probably be

1176
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:54,559
careful what i mean by modern but um

1177
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:57,040
that kind of this this notion of the

1178
00:51:01,510 --> 00:50:58,480
vampire being

1179
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:01,520
cool or suave or attractive

1180
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:04,880
um that grew out of

1181
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:08,079
uh like 19th century literature

1182
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:10,480
um if you look at like vampires and

1183
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:11,359
folklore

1184
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:14,160
nobody wanted to be a vampire nobody was

1185
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:15,760
nobody was looking for that

1186
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:18,400
they were scared to become a vampire

1187
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:19,680
they were they were legitimately

1188
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:20,559
frightened of it and they were

1189
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:22,240
frightened of vampires

1190
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:25,680
um harming harming the living harming

1191
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:27,440
their neighbors their families

1192
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:30,559
um you know as you know with 19 with

1193
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:32,319
you know the literature of the 19th

1194
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:34,079
century and then moving on to the 20th

1195
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:35,760
century and movies and stuff like that

1196
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:38,000
vampires evolved into into this this

1197
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:39,520
kind of alluring

1198
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,520
character and it's interesting you know

1199
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:42,880
you you mentioned

1200
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:45,119
you know the immortality aspect to

1201
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:46,160
vampires

1202
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:48,559
and i think that is something that very

1203
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:50,240
much speaks to

1204
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:53,440
to us now the people of the time um and

1205
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:54,800
i feel like vampires have always been

1206
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:55,760
speaking to

1207
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:57,520
to the culture of the time and what

1208
00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:58,800
people fear

1209
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:01,839
um whether in the past you know people

1210
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,119
uh feared or misunderstood say uh

1211
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:07,119
you know illness and communicable

1212
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,720
disease you know

1213
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:10,559
these days people still have kind of a

1214
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:12,720
fear of death and a longing for

1215
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,520
immortality so now i feel like the you

1216
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:17,280
know vampire fiction often kind of plays

1217
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:18,240
that up

1218
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:20,000
right because it resonates with

1219
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:21,440
audiences

1220
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,000
and um i think people are are drawn to

1221
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:25,680
that but at the same time with all these

1222
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:27,040
kind of vampire movies

1223
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:28,960
uh the vampire at the you know at the

1224
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,440
end of the day the vampire is cursed

1225
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:33,440
for having this immortality there's a

1226
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:34,720
price that

1227
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,599
they have to pay to achieve it and i

1228
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:39,280
think that also speaks to us because

1229
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:39,920
perhaps

1230
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:42,880
we realize that you know nature

1231
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:43,680
ultimately

1232
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:47,520
shouldn't be subverted when

1233
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:50,000
what part of the curse i don't see the

1234
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:52,079
downside

1235
00:52:56,069 --> 00:52:54,400
so when he's saying when you say curse i

1236
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,079
say that in jest of course

1237
00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:58,480
but but when you say curse what would be

1238
00:53:02,790 --> 00:52:59,760
the curse of being

1239
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:02,800
immortal well if you know if you're

1240
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:05,520
taking like say you know uh a move like

1241
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:07,200
a movie vampire or something like that

1242
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:09,119
well they need to survive on the blood

1243
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,319
of the living right

1244
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:12,000
or they can't go out into the sunlight

1245
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:13,359
or something like that their

1246
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:16,160
their life and their existence is

1247
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:18,240
forever altered

1248
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:21,680
in order to achieve that um so if

1249
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:23,839
say in in the movie the vampire has to

1250
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,680
you know feed on the living well

1251
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,079
so now in order to prolong your own life

1252
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:30,640
you have to shorten the lives of others

1253
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:33,280
right so there's there is a price there

1254
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:33,680
now

1255
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:36,240
um i i didn't want to get into this so

1256
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,359
early

1257
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:39,359
but you just reminded me of one thing

1258
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:41,520
that i was always confused about so

1259
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:43,599
maybe you can help me understand

1260
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:46,640
i always assumed that

1261
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:50,319
one bite and you're a vampire

1262
00:53:53,829 --> 00:53:52,960
right but that doesn't seem to be the

1263
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:53,839
case

1264
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:57,359
it's not right you are feeding on the

1265
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:58,559
living

1266
00:54:02,069 --> 00:54:01,680
and they aren't necessarily what what's

1267
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:02,079
the

1268
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:05,760
bites

1269
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:08,559
so i mean in in modern movies and

1270
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:09,920
fiction and stuff like that you know

1271
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:10,640
it's obviously

1272
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:13,119
up to the author to decide up to the

1273
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:14,960
writers to decide how

1274
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:17,760
somebody becomes a vampire whether it's

1275
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:18,400
it's

1276
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:21,839
prolonged

1277
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,800
process or something like that of of

1278
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:26,960
nightly feedings or whatever or

1279
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:29,200
ingesting the blood of the vampire or

1280
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:30,720
something like that right

1281
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:33,359
so i think it it really depends on sort

1282
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:33,839
of

1283
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:37,119
to do

1284
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:40,720
sort of modern fiction

1285
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,079
you need a vampire to become a vampire

1286
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:46,079
in some way right that's usually how how

1287
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:47,119
it goes right

1288
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:50,480
um when you look to the folklore

1289
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,760
on the other hand um it's it's

1290
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:55,920
much more broad there were lots of

1291
00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:58,000
different things that people believed

1292
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:01,760
could result in a vampire um people who

1293
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:04,880
were uh evil in life people who

1294
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:06,880
committed suicide

1295
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:09,920
uh you know people who perhaps were just

1296
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:12,240
fated to become vampires

1297
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:13,920
um so there was there was a lot of

1298
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:15,280
different things that could that could

1299
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:15,920
happen

1300
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,359
in folkloric beliefs to create a vampire

1301
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:21,599
um people who had been victims

1302
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:23,200
victimized by a vampire

1303
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:26,559
in life um might become a vampire

1304
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:28,400
in death but the interesting thing about

1305
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,680
it is sometimes it would be

1306
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:31,680
it would be sort of years before that

1307
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:32,880
would happen like someone might have

1308
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:35,280
been terrorized by a vampire in life

1309
00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:36,720
and then you know they kind of live out

1310
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:38,559
their life and they die some point years

1311
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:39,280
later

1312
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,920
well then they might become a vampire so

1313
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:43,359
people would sort of be suspicious of

1314
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:44,960
that like oh like they mentioned that

1315
00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:46,000
you know we know that they were

1316
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,079
terrorized by a vampire some years ago

1317
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:50,880
now they've died of something unrelated

1318
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:52,400
they could become a vampire so it's

1319
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:53,680
actually something that could kind of

1320
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:56,640
stay with someone um over the years and

1321
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:57,920
then and then come back

1322
00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:59,680
come back to haunt them and death yeah

1323
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:01,119
and it it never

1324
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:04,960
surprises me how much uh society and pop

1325
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:06,000
culture

1326
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:08,480
loves the vamp you know the success of

1327
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:09,520
true blood

1328
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:12,880
that was just such a huge uh

1329
00:56:17,349 --> 00:56:15,359
series that took over everything and as

1330
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:17,359
i was watching true blood

1331
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:19,839
um another thought popped in i'm so glad

1332
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:21,359
that you're on the show

1333
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:24,960
can a vampire become human

1334
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:28,000
again we know how to kill vampires right

1335
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:30,799
okay that that part i think we fully

1336
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:31,839
understand

1337
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:35,119
but can a vampire un-vampire themselves

1338
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:38,240
if that's a word sure uh it depended

1339
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:39,760
um i guess i should probably preface

1340
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:42,319
this by saying you know vampire beliefs

1341
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,240
you know they're they exist in different

1342
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:46,000
countries different regions

1343
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:48,480
um different cultures right so it's hard

1344
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:49,119
to sort of

1345
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:53,920
uh with sort of a broad brush when it

1346
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:55,440
comes to vampire beliefs because you can

1347
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,960
find different variations in different

1348
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:58,400
places because it's a supernatural

1349
00:57:01,990 --> 00:56:59,280
belief right

1350
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:02,000
so it grows and evolves and changes so

1351
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:02,400
um

1352
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:05,119
there were some beliefs that after so

1353
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:05,599
many

1354
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:08,240
years a vampire actually could become a

1355
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:09,440
human again

1356
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,799
and they would essentially sort of they

1357
00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:12,960
would leave the the village they were

1358
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:14,640
from where they had terrorized

1359
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:16,799
and they would sort of just go off and

1360
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:18,400
start a new life somewhere or something

1361
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:19,359
like that so like

1362
00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:20,640
there was a belief that that could

1363
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:22,480
happen so you know they might sort of go

1364
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:24,079
somewhere else as a stranger

1365
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:27,440
um so there that that was established

1366
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,839
in some beliefs others no it was just

1367
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:31,359
sort of the vampire was always just kind

1368
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:32,559
of a vampire

1369
00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:35,359
and um actually some some even believe

1370
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,640
that a vampire

1371
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,480
would had a lifespan of its own and it

1372
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,000
would sort of stop it would sort of just

1373
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:42,720
die um i think sometimes perhaps that

1374
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:44,400
that belief might have grown out of

1375
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:47,119
people um wanting to have some kind of

1376
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:47,920
explanation

1377
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:50,160
and comfort knowing that this bad thing

1378
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:51,440
is happening right now but it's going to

1379
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:52,480
go away

1380
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:54,240
um because it's important to remember

1381
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:55,599
too a lot of these you know

1382
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:58,400
these vampire incidents um they would

1383
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:00,480
they would happen during times of of

1384
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:02,960
of strife or calamity right like you

1385
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:04,720
know the village

1386
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:05,920
say you know there was some kind of

1387
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:07,200
illness that was going through the

1388
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:09,359
village right one person gets sick

1389
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,440
you know seemingly healthy person they

1390
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:13,440
get sick they pass away

1391
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:14,960
then another person maybe in their

1392
00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:17,119
family gets sick passes away

1393
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:19,599
then another person and so people were

1394
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,720
looking to

1395
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:22,480
explain this because you know when you

1396
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:24,319
go back say you know 1700s or something

1397
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:24,960
like that

1398
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:26,319
you know they didn't they didn't they

1399
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:27,920
didn't they didn't have germ theory they

1400
00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:29,040
didn't understand

1401
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:30,400
you know they didn't have the benefit of

1402
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,480
our understanding of disease

1403
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,960
so they were looking to find some kind

1404
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:36,319
of cause

1405
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:37,920
for what was going on what they were

1406
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:39,359
seeing around them

1407
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:42,880
so sometimes in some places their

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their suspicions would turn towards the

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dead

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and they would look to the people who

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had died and say well who was the first

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00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:52,000
person that died what was going on here

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00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,359
um so that's that would kind of

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00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:57,200
that's sort of how how it would how it

1415
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,640
would uh grow out

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00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:00,319
so you know the beliefs beliefs would

1417
00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:02,240
vary but i think a lot a lot of times

1418
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:03,440
people would just think like something

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00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:04,799
needs to be done to this vampire

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otherwise we're all gonna

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you know we'll eventually get wiped out

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00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:10,000
let's take our break right here our

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00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:11,040
guest tonight ap

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00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:14,880
sylvia and we are talking vampires

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00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:17,920
all night long tonight we're discussing

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00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:19,200
accounts from the past we're going to

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00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:20,799
get into that after the break in the

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00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:21,599
origins

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00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:24,160
locations folklore history all of it

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00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:25,760
it's going down tonight

1431
00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:28,319
here on fade to black continuing our

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haunted rocktober i am your host jimmy

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church

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now ap's website locationsoflore.com the

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links are over at

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short break stay with us

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our haunted rocktober tonight ap sylvia

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is here

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tomorrow night on this very program

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they're going to be here to discuss

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where we are ghost hunting on board the

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mary wednesday night richard dolan

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returns we will be discussing ufos and

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uap headlines from all around the world

1578
01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:38,400
tonight it's ap sylvia we are discussing

1579
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:41,599
vampires now right before the break as

1580
01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:44,559
aap as we start to get into uh the

1581
01:05:48,549 --> 01:05:45,680
history

1582
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:48,559
uh of of all of this i wanna let you

1583
01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:48,960
know

1584
01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:50,480
and everybody else that's watching on

1585
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:52,319
the camera i just

1586
01:05:56,870 --> 01:05:55,920
lit some romanian incense down here in

1587
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:56,880
the bunker

1588
01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:59,839
it's some anti-vampire incense and it

1589
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:01,280
smells like garlic

1590
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:04,079
do you have any of that ap you know i

1591
01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:04,720
don't but

1592
01:06:08,390 --> 01:06:07,200
uh maybe i should get some well if you

1593
01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:08,400
like garlic

1594
01:06:15,430 --> 01:06:11,920
the deal

1595
01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:15,440
does as we discuss you know the origins

1596
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:18,640
and and the history of vampires

1597
01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:21,359
does it all start with vlad the impaler

1598
01:06:26,630 --> 01:06:24,240
or was there stuff going on before then

1599
01:06:28,309 --> 01:06:26,640
um there there definitely was stuff

1600
01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:28,319
going on before then

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01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:30,960
uh i think vampires vampire beliefs in

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01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:32,400
some form another probably

1603
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:34,720
stretch back you know quite far into

1604
01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:35,760
history

1605
01:06:41,750 --> 01:06:40,400
um vlad the impaler uh he comes up a lot

1606
01:06:43,029 --> 01:06:41,760
uh you know especially if you're

1607
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:43,039
watching maybe like uh like a

1608
01:06:46,309 --> 01:06:44,720
documentary about vampires or something

1609
01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:46,319
like that

1610
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:49,920
he comes up in in relation to um

1611
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:53,280
bram stoker's novel dracula

1612
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:56,960
um you know there's been a lot of sort

1613
01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:57,440
of

1614
01:07:03,589 --> 01:07:00,720
conjecture about you know stoker used

1615
01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:03,599
uh used vlad the impaler as sort of the

1616
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:04,160
the

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01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,640
inspiration for for his character count

1618
01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:07,920
dracula

1619
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:11,680
um and and that sort of thing um i mean

1620
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:14,720
basically so vlad vlad the impaler um

1621
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:18,720
he was uh he was uh uh prince of

1622
01:07:25,829 --> 01:07:22,240
um volakia which is uh now a region

1623
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:25,839
in romania in the uh in the 1400s

1624
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:30,000
um so he he ruled he ruled there during

1625
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:34,000
uh during a time when there was um

1626
01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:36,400
it was a brutal time he was a bru he was

1627
01:07:41,510 --> 01:07:37,920
uh a very

1628
01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:41,520
brutal ruler um his his country was kind

1629
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:42,960
of positioned between

1630
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:46,400
the hungarian empire and uh the ottoman

1631
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,280
empire

1632
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:48,960
uh and so there was a lot of a lot of

1633
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:51,359
war a lot of conflict

1634
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:54,400
um and he actually he actually ruled

1635
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:57,440
uh three separate times uh

1636
01:08:00,789 --> 01:07:59,200
because you know due to like you know

1637
01:08:02,710 --> 01:08:00,799
sort of people trying to take the throne

1638
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:02,720
and stuff like that so it was

1639
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:05,440
it was um he had a very precarious

1640
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:06,240
position

1641
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:09,200
so part of what he sort of did to kind

1642
01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:10,559
of cement his position

1643
01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:13,760
and you know fend off uh

1644
01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:16,480
fend off you know these um you know sort

1645
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:17,679
of invading armies and stuff like that

1646
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:18,560
because he was

1647
01:08:22,630 --> 01:08:20,640
known for his extreme brutality right so

1648
01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:22,640
you know vlad the impaler

1649
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:24,080
um i don't think anyone called him that

1650
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:29,110
how you doing right but he was he was

1651
01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:30,880
you know believed to have impaled you

1652
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:31,199
know

1653
01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:33,520
thousands of of people and enemy troops

1654
01:08:37,269 --> 01:08:34,239
on on

1655
01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:37,279
on pikes and stuff like that now his his

1656
01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:39,839
dad's name was dracul

1657
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:43,520
correct so his father was uh

1658
01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:46,719
was uh dracul he took he took the name

1659
01:08:51,749 --> 01:08:48,159
dracula because he

1660
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:51,759
was a member of um the order of the

1661
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:52,799
dragon

1662
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:54,239
uh which was this this order of

1663
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:56,000
knighthood um so

1664
01:09:03,030 --> 01:08:59,520
uh his son uh vlad

1665
01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:03,040
uh took took the name dracula dracula

1666
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,880
meaning the son of the dragon

1667
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:06,799
so so he was vlad the third so in his

1668
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:08,400
lifetime he would have been vlad iii

1669
01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:11,359
or vlad vlad dracula so that's that's

1670
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:13,279
where his his name came from son of the

1671
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:14,239
dragon

1672
01:09:21,030 --> 01:09:17,920
um we know that when stoker

1673
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:21,040
was researching his his book

1674
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:24,400
dracula he uh ran acro he

1675
01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:26,480
ran across this one history book talking

1676
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:27,600
about it was uh

1677
01:09:31,749 --> 01:09:29,759
talking about the histories of vladia

1678
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:31,759
and another country moldavia

1679
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:34,880
and in that book there is a reference to

1680
01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:38,080
the ruler dracula who

1681
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:40,319
fought against the ottomans and and and

1682
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:41,440
that kind of thing

1683
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:43,359
um it's it's not a long reference it's

1684
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:45,520
very it's it's a it's a short reference

1685
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,960
but it mentions it mentions the name

1686
01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:48,480
dracula in the book it mentions that

1687
01:09:53,349 --> 01:09:50,159
dracula means devil

1688
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:53,359
so that name uh stoker liked that name

1689
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:54,880
that resonated with him

1690
01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:56,159
um he thought it thought it was a good

1691
01:10:00,310 --> 01:09:58,239
name and so he took that name

1692
01:10:01,830 --> 01:10:00,320
for his main character before that i

1693
01:10:02,790 --> 01:10:01,840
think his uh well no i shouldn't say

1694
01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:02,800
make it the the

1695
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:04,159
you know count jacket of the villain

1696
01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:06,480
right um

1697
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:08,400
before before he took the name dracula i

1698
01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:09,600
think stoker was going to call him like

1699
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:11,679
count wampier or something like that so

1700
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:14,719
dracula is a great name uh glad glady

1701
01:10:19,189 --> 01:10:16,000
glad he went with it

1702
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:19,199
um in the in the novel um

1703
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:21,760
there are some references to sort of who

1704
01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:23,600
dracula was in life

1705
01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:25,840
and uh like van helsing talks about oh

1706
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:26,800
it's dracula he

1707
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:28,560
you know he fought the turks and stuff

1708
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:30,960
like that um and it seems pretty clear

1709
01:10:33,910 --> 01:10:32,000
that stoker

1710
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:33,920
was getting his information from that

1711
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:35,120
passage in this

1712
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:38,719
in this book um it's

1713
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:40,000
there's been a lot of conjecture that

1714
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:42,880
stoker knew a lot more about dracula

1715
01:10:46,149 --> 01:10:45,199
um and like you know this research and

1716
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,159
knew about you know

1717
01:10:49,189 --> 01:10:48,000
sort of the the impaling and this and

1718
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:49,199
that but um

1719
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:51,760
that's all really conjecture really as

1720
01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:53,520
from from sort of what i've

1721
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:55,840
what i've read of of you know others uh

1722
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,080
uh no there's a scholar uh

1723
01:11:01,189 --> 01:11:00,320
elizabeth miller she she researched this

1724
01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:01,199
quite extensively

1725
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:02,480
and basically the only thing we can say

1726
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:04,000
for certain is that stoker kind of got

1727
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:05,520
this one reference about

1728
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:07,280
about dracula in this book and that's

1729
01:11:11,830 --> 01:11:09,040
kind and that's kind of it

1730
01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:11,840
now um i i wanted to ask you a couple of

1731
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:13,760
quick questions because

1732
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:16,560
um growing up as i started looking into

1733
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:17,760
this and of course anne

1734
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,560
rice comes into play and and and you

1735
01:11:25,910 --> 01:11:22,640
start to

1736
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:25,920
research the history i i read a few

1737
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:26,560
things

1738
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:30,400
one that vlad used to sign his paperwork

1739
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:33,120
dracula and i thought wow that's kind of

1740
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:35,600
strange okay is it vlad iii

1741
01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:38,400
is it dracula or are there serious

1742
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:40,159
origins to this and

1743
01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:43,440
dracula is not a hollywood situation

1744
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:45,920
that there is foundations of this and

1745
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:48,000
he's to sign it dracula

1746
01:11:54,630 --> 01:11:51,360
um and uh the second part of that

1747
01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:54,640
is i had read and i just want uh

1748
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:58,239
your clarification on this that dracula

1749
01:12:02,950 --> 01:11:59,920
was dragging

1750
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:02,960
in some parts of trent transylvania

1751
01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:05,440
and and and romania of course but it

1752
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:06,480
also

1753
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:09,840
means uh the devil

1754
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:14,080
now is is is that i mean dragon is cool

1755
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:17,199
right yes devil is

1756
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:21,440
not now what are we dealing with here or

1757
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:24,640
is this just part of folklore so

1758
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:28,159
as as i understand it um

1759
01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:30,960
so first of all vlad would you know he

1760
01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:32,640
went by dracula that was

1761
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:34,640
that was certainly a name that he he he

1762
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:36,320
would have gone by um

1763
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:38,880
as far as i understand it the the the

1764
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:40,000
dracula could mean

1765
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:42,719
either dragon or devil right um i

1766
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:44,560
haven't i haven't explored the

1767
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:46,719
the linguistics sort of beyond that in

1768
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:49,199
terms of regionalizations and things

1769
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:52,640
um i you know i think when he when when

1770
01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:55,600
uh when dracul took the knit when he

1771
01:12:58,470 --> 01:12:56,800
took the name it was

1772
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:58,480
to mean dragon because of the order of

1773
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:00,400
the dragon but obviously like when

1774
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:02,400
stoker took the dracula name he took it

1775
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:03,120
because

1776
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:06,640
it would mean devil right right so there

1777
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:08,000
is truth to that then

1778
01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:10,640
okay i've been thinking about this for

1779
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:11,679
years now

1780
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:14,159
one other question really quick the

1781
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:15,040
images

1782
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:19,120
of vlad iii and of course vlad dracul

1783
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:22,320
his father when you first look at them

1784
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:24,000
and you're researching vampire you're

1785
01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:24,560
looking at

1786
01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:27,600
well yeah that's a vampire right he

1787
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:28,480
looks

1788
01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:34,719
some of the imaging today is it taken

1789
01:13:40,149 --> 01:13:37,679
directly from those original portraits

1790
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:40,159
um there are there is there is a there's

1791
01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:41,760
some like uh woodcuts and a famous

1792
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:42,800
painting of

1793
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:46,480
of dracula um you know he certainly

1794
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:49,199
uh is an intimidating figure um just

1795
01:13:52,149 --> 01:13:49,600
sort of

1796
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:52,159
the visual of him i will say that in his

1797
01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:53,199
lifetime

1798
01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:56,239
people didn't believe that vlad dracula

1799
01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:58,960
was a vampire right that's they they

1800
01:14:01,270 --> 01:14:00,320
didn't they didn't think that he was

1801
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:01,280
certainly a very

1802
01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:04,640
brutal ruler um but they didn't think

1803
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:05,679
that he was

1804
01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:08,800
something like that

1805
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:12,800
um there was um there was sort of a poem

1806
01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:14,719
that was written about about

1807
01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:17,199
vlad the impaler which at one point got

1808
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:18,239
translated to me

1809
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:20,960
to say that he dipped his his bread and

1810
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:22,560
the blood of his victims

1811
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:25,520
um but since then it's it's been

1812
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:27,280
asserted that that was a mistranslation

1813
01:14:29,669 --> 01:14:28,320
that vlad

1814
01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:29,679
that it meant that it was actually

1815
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:32,239
saying uh vlad washed his hands in the

1816
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:33,840
blood of his victims which is still very

1817
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:34,880
disturbing

1818
01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:38,159
uh but not vampiric did he

1819
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:40,800
were there any accounts of him drinking

1820
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:41,679
blood

1821
01:14:46,709 --> 01:14:44,960
to my knowledge no now you mentioned

1822
01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:46,719
let's uh let's steer off of this we're

1823
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:48,320
going to come back to vlad

1824
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:51,600
of course but um pre-dating

1825
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,880
uh vlad uh and

1826
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:56,719
and accounts of vampire there's plenty

1827
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:58,800
of stuff in the 18th century 17th

1828
01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:01,040
century 18th 19th of course the modern

1829
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:01,840
stuff

1830
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:04,560
but predating the 14th and 15th

1831
01:15:10,149 --> 01:15:06,800
centuries with vlad the impaler

1832
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:10,159
and dracula what are the instances

1833
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:13,040
in the historical record about vampires

1834
01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:13,760
sure so

1835
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:16,320
um one of the accounts that i that i

1836
01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:18,719
found that i found during my research

1837
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:21,920
um dates from the 12th century

1838
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:24,239
um and i can share i can share that

1839
01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:25,199
story with you

1840
01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:28,239
um it was uh it was written down by

1841
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:31,199
um a chronicler named william of newberg

1842
01:15:34,709 --> 01:15:31,600
uh

1843
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:34,719
in the 12th century um and he was

1844
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:35,280
british

1845
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:38,960
you have this

1846
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:40,960
you have and i i like i this i find this

1847
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:42,159
story particularly interesting because

1848
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:43,120
of the fact that

1849
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:46,000
it is outside the bounds of place and

1850
01:15:49,430 --> 01:15:48,159
time that you normally associate with

1851
01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:49,440
vampires

1852
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:51,760
right normally you think you know you

1853
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:54,239
think of vampires like you know romania

1854
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,480
or pennsylvania translate you know

1855
01:16:01,590 --> 01:15:58,719
transylvania right um the eastern europe

1856
01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:01,600
you know 1700s 1800s that sort of thing

1857
01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:04,000
um but so this is you know this is now

1858
01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:07,199
going over to to britain um you know

1859
01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:08,960
1100s

1860
01:16:14,950 --> 01:16:12,320
the story takes place um at uh

1861
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:14,960
anantas castle which it's not clear

1862
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:15,600
whether

1863
01:16:19,990 --> 01:16:18,880
that's in in modern day like scotland or

1864
01:16:22,870 --> 01:16:20,000
northern england but somewhere

1865
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:22,880
in there um you know on you know great

1866
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:23,840
britain

1867
01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:26,960
um it's the it's the story of this

1868
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:30,239
this this man who uh he was

1869
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:32,880
you know he was sort of uh kind of

1870
01:16:38,310 --> 01:16:35,040
thought to be sort of a scoundrel

1871
01:16:41,669 --> 01:16:38,320
and he suspects his his wife of

1872
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:41,679
cheating on him so he decides that he's

1873
01:16:45,990 --> 01:16:42,719
going to

1874
01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:46,000
catch her in the act so he tells his

1875
01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:46,960
wife that he's

1876
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:49,600
uh he's gonna go away for for a while or

1877
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,960
she's gonna go on a trip or something

1878
01:16:55,590 --> 01:16:51,840
like that

1879
01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:55,600
and um instead of leaving he hides

1880
01:17:02,870 --> 01:16:59,600
in the rafters um of their dwelling

1881
01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:02,880
and sort of waits there for for her to

1882
01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:05,040
um have her liaison with her lover so he

1883
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,159
can he can catch her

1884
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:08,400
but while he's up there in the rafters

1885
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:09,199
waiting

1886
01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:12,080
he loses his balance he falls and he

1887
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:13,760
hits the ground and severely injures

1888
01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:15,199
himself

1889
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:18,239
so he is taken to his bed

1890
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:21,440
he's severely injured the priest comes

1891
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:23,120
to offer him last rites

1892
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:26,640
but he refuses and then he subsequently

1893
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:28,880
dies of his injuries

1894
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:32,640
so this scenario um

1895
01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:33,920
in our modern notions we wouldn't

1896
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:35,440
necessarily necessarily think of this

1897
01:17:40,709 --> 01:17:37,440
person becoming a vampire

1898
01:17:41,510 --> 01:17:40,719
but to to the mind of the people at the

1899
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:41,520
time

1900
01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:43,520
um this is this is kind of a prime

1901
01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:45,920
situation of someone becoming a vampire

1902
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:48,480
they were sort of an evil person in life

1903
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:49,520
um

1904
01:17:53,830 --> 01:17:52,080
they died in sort of an unnatural way

1905
01:17:55,590 --> 01:17:53,840
not necessarily suicide but they

1906
01:17:56,870 --> 01:17:55,600
you know they it was it was an unnatural

1907
01:17:58,790 --> 01:17:56,880
death and

1908
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:58,800
they died in a state of sin they refused

1909
01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:00,960
they refused the last rites so this is

1910
01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:02,480
this is kind of a prime example of

1911
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:04,080
someone becoming a vampire

1912
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:07,360
and um that's that's what that's

1913
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:08,960
essentially what happens he

1914
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:13,040
his um after he's buried his body starts

1915
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:15,440
rising from the grave every night and

1916
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:17,120
starts walking through the town

1917
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:19,920
and it's it's chased by a pack of dogs

1918
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:21,440
accompany him

1919
01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:24,880
and so uh the the townsfolk

1920
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:27,520
they stay they stay indoors to avoid

1921
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:28,800
being attacked by this

1922
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:32,800
um uh revenant um uh you know the term

1923
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:33,760
vampire

1924
01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:35,520
uh there's many different terms for sort

1925
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:37,760
of you know these undead menaces right

1926
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:39,600
um so they they you know the townsfolk

1927
01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:41,440
they stay inside to avoid being attacked

1928
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:42,320
by him

1929
01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:45,360
but his breath ends up

1930
01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:48,320
poisoning the air and so a plague

1931
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:50,080
descends upon the town

1932
01:18:55,830 --> 01:18:53,520
so people start dying so

1933
01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:55,840
as time goes by people start you know

1934
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:57,440
more more and more people start dying

1935
01:19:01,270 --> 01:18:59,520
people start fleeing the village

1936
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:01,280
and then ultimately there's there's sort

1937
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:03,920
of you know not many people left

1938
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,600
um so the remaining townsfolk they

1939
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:09,520
have they they kind of go to have a

1940
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:10,960
meeting to kind of discuss what's to be

1941
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:11,520
done

1942
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:14,000
but these two brothers decide that

1943
01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:15,520
they're going to take action on their

1944
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:16,239
own

1945
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:19,120
they they say to themselves you know our

1946
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:19,600
you know

1947
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:22,800
to this

1948
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:24,960
this plague we're going to be soon to

1949
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:26,800
follow unless we do something

1950
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:29,199
so they go to the grave of of the dead

1951
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:30,080
man

1952
01:19:36,149 --> 01:19:33,120
they they dig him up and

1953
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:36,159
um they the

1954
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:38,640
the corpse of the dead man is kind of

1955
01:19:41,830 --> 01:19:39,760
bloated

1956
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,840
and as they're digging up they they

1957
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:43,679
pierce him and this blood comes out

1958
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:45,520
and they say that he the the corpse

1959
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:47,360
appeared as as if it was

1960
01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:49,360
you know a leech filled with the blood

1961
01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:50,800
of many people

1962
01:19:55,990 --> 01:19:54,239
um and the the if you if you

1963
01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:56,000
read the latin version of it the the

1964
01:20:00,950 --> 01:19:57,760
term they actually use

1965
01:20:02,950 --> 01:20:00,960
is uh sanguisuga which translates to

1966
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:02,960
leech but actually quite literally

1967
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:06,560
translates to blood sucker

1968
01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:09,040
so they take the corpse outside the

1969
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:09,920
village

1970
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:12,800
they rip out the heart and they burn the

1971
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:14,000
body

1972
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:21,040
they destroy the revenant and the flames

1973
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:23,440
have a sort of purifying effect on the

1974
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:24,239
air

1975
01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:27,920
and the plague is lifted

1976
01:20:31,590 --> 01:20:30,880
and so these two brothers end up saving

1977
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:31,600
the village

1978
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:34,800
from the uh from the threat of this dead

1979
01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:35,360
man

1980
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:39,040
wow that is and that's uh 12th century

1981
01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:41,280
correct wow that's crazy town right

1982
01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:42,320
there

1983
01:20:45,830 --> 01:20:44,080
um i i thought you were gonna say they

1984
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:45,840
used a steak

1985
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:49,360
but i felt that that one was coming

1986
01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:52,400
so that's 12th century what about the

1987
01:20:57,590 --> 01:20:53,760
word vampire

1988
01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:57,600
where are those origins um

1989
01:21:03,430 --> 01:21:00,639
so the word the word uh vampire

1990
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:03,440
uh vampire um there's been a lot of

1991
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:05,360
discussion about sort of where that that

1992
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:06,480
comes from

1993
01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:09,520
um it might it probably came from

1994
01:21:15,430 --> 01:21:12,960
like the word uh upyr uh which

1995
01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:15,440
might uh which might come from the from

1996
01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:16,080
the

1997
01:21:23,110 --> 01:21:22,000
um so like that's that that's sort of

1998
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:23,120
what that's kind of

1999
01:21:26,390 --> 01:21:25,360
one hypothesis of sort of where where

2000
01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:26,400
the term came from

2001
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:28,239
might surprise people to hear that oh

2002
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:30,560
well vampire the term vampire

2003
01:21:34,709 --> 01:21:33,360
evolved from the term for a witch um but

2004
01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:34,719
actually when you look at the folklore

2005
01:21:36,709 --> 01:21:35,920
it's not that's actually not very

2006
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:36,719
surprising

2007
01:21:41,590 --> 01:21:39,360
there's actually a lot of overlap and

2008
01:21:42,950 --> 01:21:41,600
interplay between beliefs surrounding

2009
01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:42,960
vampires beliefs

2010
01:21:46,709 --> 01:21:45,679
surrounding witches uh and beliefs

2011
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:46,719
surrounding

2012
01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:49,440
uh werewolves um and really there's

2013
01:21:55,030 --> 01:21:51,440
there's many different terms

2014
01:21:57,350 --> 01:21:55,040
for you know sort of the the the undead

2015
01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:57,360
that sort of might be it might be a

2016
01:21:59,910 --> 01:21:59,040
threat to you and it changes from region

2017
01:22:01,990 --> 01:21:59,920
to region

2018
01:22:03,189 --> 01:22:02,000
in my in my book um i share a lot of

2019
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:03,199
those terms when i share the stories

2020
01:22:06,149 --> 01:22:04,880
i'll often say kind of what what they

2021
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:06,159
call what they called it

2022
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:07,840
um but you know you definitely don't

2023
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:09,360
want to just scope it down to them

2024
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:10,960
saying oh this was a

2025
01:22:14,550 --> 01:22:13,360
vampire um because you'll you'll miss

2026
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:14,560
tons of stories

2027
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:16,400
um like the one out like the one i just

2028
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:18,400
i just shared they were known by many

2029
01:22:23,910 --> 01:22:20,480
different names depending on the place

2030
01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:23,920
now uh what about uh i'm gonna get to

2031
01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:25,600
some other specific accounts

2032
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:29,280
uh in the next segment everybody but uh

2033
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:33,360
the traditions that we all know about

2034
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:37,199
garlic right holy water silver bullets

2035
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:40,000
silver bullets is obviously newer holy

2036
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:42,400
water is probably quite old right

2037
01:22:49,669 --> 01:22:45,920
and and garlic could probably go back um

2038
01:22:52,629 --> 01:22:49,679
when did these should i say

2039
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:52,639
defensive products right start to

2040
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:54,639
surface

2041
01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:57,760
yes um so when you look at when you look

2042
01:23:01,830 --> 01:22:58,560
at the beliefs

2043
01:23:05,189 --> 01:23:01,840
um there were a number of of

2044
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:05,199
you know different sort of different

2045
01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:06,800
tools of the trade that people would use

2046
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:09,600
to sort of fend off vampires or fend off

2047
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:12,639
evil um you know uh

2048
01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:16,080
holy water um obviously um i don't think

2049
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:17,600
it's surprising to learn that sort of

2050
01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:20,159
well-established in folklore um

2051
01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:22,639
you know if this is uh that would have

2052
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:23,600
fit well

2053
01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:25,920
with um you know people's spiritual

2054
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:27,520
beliefs right of you know

2055
01:23:30,790 --> 01:23:29,199
the power of god protecting them so

2056
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:30,800
there's various you know there's various

2057
01:23:34,149 --> 01:23:32,320
accounts and beliefs of people using

2058
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:34,159
holy water um

2059
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:36,719
to you know sort of to protect things

2060
01:23:41,669 --> 01:23:38,159
crosses

2061
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:41,679
um as as well um

2062
01:23:45,189 --> 01:23:43,760
there's there's uh an interesting an

2063
01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:45,199
interesting story where this van where

2064
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:46,480
this vampire

2065
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:49,760
um he this uh he kind of uh

2066
01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:51,199
he's sort of i think out by a graveyard

2067
01:23:54,790 --> 01:23:52,800
or something this guy this this guy

2068
01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:54,800
sort of riding by in a carriage and he

2069
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:56,239
picks up the v and he kind of picks up

2070
01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:57,600
the vampire as a hitchhiker not

2071
01:24:01,590 --> 01:23:59,360
realizing it's a vampire

2072
01:24:03,910 --> 01:24:01,600
uh and uh unfortunately he does the

2073
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:03,920
vampire says like well take me into town

2074
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:07,280
and so every house they go to um

2075
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:09,440
the vampire would say like oh the door

2076
01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:10,320
is locked tight

2077
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:12,159
even if it wasn't because the doors had

2078
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:13,360
crosses on them

2079
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:14,960
and then the last house they get to

2080
01:24:19,669 --> 01:24:16,960
there's an immense lock on this door

2081
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:19,679
on the gate to get inside and um but

2082
01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:20,960
there's no cross

2083
01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:23,679
and the vampire just magically opens the

2084
01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:25,120
door and goes in and

2085
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:27,199
attacks the people so sort of this you

2086
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:28,320
know sort of these religious

2087
01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:30,480
religious symbols um are certainly well

2088
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:31,440
established

2089
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:35,280
uh garlic um also uh also is uh

2090
01:24:40,629 --> 01:24:38,320
well established in folklore uh accounts

2091
01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:40,639
of it in transylvania being used to

2092
01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:43,040
to um protect houses from vampires

2093
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:45,520
they'd put up the garlic or rub it into

2094
01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:47,840
sort of like you know like rub it around

2095
01:24:52,870 --> 01:24:50,400
the door and stuff like that

2096
01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:52,880
um the idea behind the garlic is sort of

2097
01:24:56,629 --> 01:24:54,159
interesting you sort of

2098
01:24:58,149 --> 01:24:56,639
wonder what what sort of caused that

2099
01:24:58,629 --> 01:24:58,159
belief in garlic right right this sort

2100
01:25:06,790 --> 01:24:58,639
of

2101
01:25:08,390 --> 01:25:06,800
one thing to mention about guys is that

2102
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:08,400
there's even since ancient times there

2103
01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:09,760
are a lot of beliefs surrounding garlic

2104
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:10,560
of its health

2105
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:13,440
of its benefits and and it could ward

2106
01:25:17,990 --> 01:25:15,360
off animals and stuff like that

2107
01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:18,000
um so it might have sort of the the

2108
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:19,679
belief in garlic might have kind of

2109
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:21,600
grown out of sort of a lot of the things

2110
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:22,800
that were sort of

2111
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:24,719
um thought about garlic since ancient

2112
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:26,320
times but there's sort of

2113
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:29,040
one one interesting hypothesis about

2114
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:29,520
about

2115
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:32,800
garlic um is that you know sort of

2116
01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:35,280
so garlic is a very pungent you know

2117
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:36,480
it's very pungent right has a very

2118
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:37,600
strong odor

2119
01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:40,960
um vampires were also believed to have a

2120
01:25:44,950 --> 01:25:42,000
very strong odor

2121
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:44,960
because they were dead um so there was

2122
01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:46,800
this idea that

2123
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:49,920
the smell of the garlic would mask the

2124
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:52,000
smell of the vampire

2125
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:54,560
and thus by by repelling the smell of

2126
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:55,360
the vampire

2127
01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:57,199
it would also sort of i guess through

2128
01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:58,800
sort of sympathetic magic or something

2129
01:26:02,390 --> 01:25:59,199
like that

2130
01:26:04,149 --> 01:26:02,400
repel the vampire itself so you have

2131
01:26:05,669 --> 01:26:04,159
this sort of interesting notion of

2132
01:26:07,669 --> 01:26:05,679
the sort of practical application of

2133
01:26:10,149 --> 01:26:07,679
garlic of overpowering some other

2134
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:10,159
some other smell to sort of taking it to

2135
01:26:14,629 --> 01:26:11,520
a supernatural

2136
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:14,639
end and repelling evil itself

2137
01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:17,760
so so garlic again we're very very well

2138
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:18,639
established

2139
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:22,000
in uh in uh actual folkloric beliefs

2140
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:24,159
now before we get to the break uh we've

2141
01:26:28,709 --> 01:26:25,440
got about five minutes

2142
01:26:31,669 --> 01:26:28,719
uh the the mirror

2143
01:26:34,390 --> 01:26:31,679
right vampires don't show up in mirrors

2144
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:34,400
where did that get its uh start

2145
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:36,400
um you can actually thank bram stoker

2146
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:37,920
for that right

2147
01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:40,560
so he he actually he came up with the

2148
01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:41,520
notion that

2149
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:43,360
the vampire would not have a reflection

2150
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:45,120
in the mirror if you actually look at

2151
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:47,760
um in bram stoker's notes that he that

2152
01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:48,320
he took

2153
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:49,840
for you know in preparation for a

2154
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:51,679
dracula he actually had planned to have

2155
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:52,960
it to have it be that the

2156
01:26:56,790 --> 01:26:54,960
the count couldn't be photographed or

2157
01:26:57,990 --> 01:26:56,800
painted or anything like that there

2158
01:27:02,790 --> 01:26:58,000
could be no

2159
01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:02,800
um visual record of of count dracula

2160
01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:06,320
um mirrors traditionally had a lot of um

2161
01:27:10,149 --> 01:27:07,840
uh there's a lot of associations with

2162
01:27:12,310 --> 01:27:10,159
the soul in mirrors

2163
01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:12,320
right like there were beliefs about um

2164
01:27:16,709 --> 01:27:14,239
covering mirrors up

2165
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:16,719
um after a death because you know that

2166
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:17,440
because

2167
01:27:21,030 --> 01:27:19,840
people people could be vulnerable to die

2168
01:27:22,790 --> 01:27:21,040
to to dying

2169
01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:22,800
living could be vulnerable to dying if

2170
01:27:26,310 --> 01:27:24,880
somebody else died uh probably due to

2171
01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:26,320
like the reflection of the soul in the

2172
01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:28,080
mirror that sort of thing

2173
01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:31,360
um so it could be that that

2174
01:27:34,629 --> 01:27:33,120
stoker was kind of getting influenced by

2175
01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:34,639
that kind of belief and

2176
01:27:38,950 --> 01:27:38,400
using using that that imagery the of

2177
01:27:40,709 --> 01:27:38,960
this

2178
01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:40,719
of the vampire not being reflected to

2179
01:27:45,669 --> 01:27:42,880
kind of uh imply that

2180
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:45,679
dracula didn't have a soul because there

2181
01:27:50,229 --> 01:27:47,440
was nothing being reflected

2182
01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:50,239
uh in the mirror um there actually were

2183
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:52,000
folkloric beliefs that if uh

2184
01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:54,880
if a corpse was uh if a corpse was

2185
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:56,159
reflected in the mirror that it might

2186
01:27:59,590 --> 01:27:57,840
actually become a vampire

2187
01:28:00,870 --> 01:27:59,600
so you might actually sort of maybe the

2188
01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:00,880
the like

2189
01:28:04,310 --> 01:28:02,320
sort of a different kind of track with

2190
01:28:04,870 --> 01:28:04,320
the mirror in terms of vampire beliefs

2191
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:04,880
but

2192
01:28:07,990 --> 01:28:06,800
ultimately the the no reflection came

2193
01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:08,000
from stoker

2194
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:12,080
now uh really quick before the break

2195
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:15,120
best vampire movies

2196
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:18,400
now before you say nosferatu because

2197
01:28:22,550 --> 01:28:21,040
you know that's on the top of my list uh

2198
01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:22,560
i'm going

2199
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:26,000
lost boys but before we even go there

2200
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:28,080
what are your uh suggest what what are

2201
01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:30,080
the best vampire movies

2202
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:33,199
um i mean you know uh obviously the

2203
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:35,040
classic universal dracula with baylor

2204
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:36,159
lugosi

2205
01:28:41,270 --> 01:28:39,120
um naturally nosferatu what i actually

2206
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:41,280
do really like was um the

2207
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:43,600
nine uh from the 90s bram stoker's

2208
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:44,320
dracula

2209
01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:46,560
oh that's uh the francis ford coppola

2210
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:47,520
version correct

2211
01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:49,199
yeah that's a great movie man that's a

2212
01:28:51,669 --> 01:28:51,199
great movie absolutely absolutely i

2213
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:51,679
really like

2214
01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:52,960
that one obviously it's you know it's

2215
01:28:55,270 --> 01:28:54,880
got its flaws and people point that out

2216
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:55,280
but

2217
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:57,920
i i i really like the the imagery of it

2218
01:29:01,189 --> 01:28:58,560
i think

2219
01:29:03,270 --> 01:29:01,199
um you know the performances for dracula

2220
01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:03,280
and van helsing are are fantastic i like

2221
01:29:06,709 --> 01:29:03,520
the

2222
01:29:09,350 --> 01:29:06,719
one that's one i really like

2223
01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:09,360
um actually a fun one is fright night

2224
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:10,560
have you ever seen that yeah that's a

2225
01:29:12,709 --> 01:29:11,280
great movie

2226
01:29:14,390 --> 01:29:12,719
right now yeah yeah nothing wrong with

2227
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:14,400
that what about uh what we do in the

2228
01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:15,360
shadows

2229
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:17,440
oh my god that movie's fantastic isn't

2230
01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:18,880
it though oh

2231
01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:20,880
that is so fantastic i need to see the

2232
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:22,880
series yeah i need to watch the series

2233
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:25,520
i've you know every time i start to

2234
01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:27,040
watch the series

2235
01:29:34,229 --> 01:29:31,760
i get pulled off of it um but uh

2236
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:34,239
i you know jermaine is just funny in

2237
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:36,000
anything that he does

2238
01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:39,120
and uh ty cod uh waititi

2239
01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:41,360
he's just he's just he's over the top

2240
01:29:45,110 --> 01:29:42,800
and everything that he does

2241
01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:45,120
but yeah that movie now see the thing is

2242
01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:47,120
this i've only got 45 seconds before the

2243
01:29:51,910 --> 01:29:48,000
break

2244
01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:51,920
the movie is funny no question about it

2245
01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:52,960
but the movie

2246
01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:56,080
really if you get into it is pretty

2247
01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:59,040
creepy it's a pretty scary movie if you

2248
01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:00,719
think about it that house is

2249
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:06,480
is is a scary house it is there's things

2250
01:30:09,430 --> 01:30:08,400
about it but anyway i i love what we do

2251
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:09,440
in the shadows

2252
01:30:16,149 --> 01:30:12,880
um but uh all of the dracula series

2253
01:30:20,229 --> 01:30:16,159
of of movies especially from the 70s

2254
01:30:21,910 --> 01:30:20,239
um uh i really enjoyed uh but going back

2255
01:30:24,950 --> 01:30:21,920
to bella lugosi

2256
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:24,960
uh yeah i think uh that that still is

2257
01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:26,239
where the strength is

2258
01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:29,280
uh when we talk about dracula movies

2259
01:30:35,590 --> 01:30:32,560
now before we before we break though

2260
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:35,600
the first time i saw a nosferatu

2261
01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:38,400
i i saw it as a silent movie it's a

2262
01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:39,360
silent movie but

2263
01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:42,960
with uh a pianist uh playing live

2264
01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:45,120
along with it right it was an outdoor

2265
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:46,480
yeah um

2266
01:30:49,590 --> 01:30:48,880
and i walked away from that thinking to

2267
01:30:52,550 --> 01:30:49,600
myself

2268
01:30:53,189 --> 01:30:52,560
that is the scariest movie i have ever

2269
01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:53,199
seen

2270
01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:55,360
what was the movie uh that was made the

2271
01:31:00,229 --> 01:30:57,120
remake of that

2272
01:31:02,310 --> 01:31:00,239
when nosferatu was real uh shadow of the

2273
01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:02,320
vampire yeah shadow of the vampire

2274
01:31:06,550 --> 01:31:04,719
see now now okay i could have written

2275
01:31:09,510 --> 01:31:06,560
shadow of the vampire

2276
01:31:10,149 --> 01:31:09,520
in that after i saw the original version

2277
01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:10,159
of it

2278
01:31:15,430 --> 01:31:12,639
i was so creeped out and you have to

2279
01:31:18,229 --> 01:31:15,440
think about when they made the movie

2280
01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:18,239
yeah yeah it's it's it's i mean it's

2281
01:31:22,149 --> 01:31:20,000
from the 1920s but it's got such

2282
01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:22,159
powerful visuals that i think it

2283
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:24,159
you know i think it it can resonate with

2284
01:31:29,510 --> 01:31:25,199
with people today

2285
01:31:31,350 --> 01:31:29,520
yeah yeah totally scary 1922 i think 21.

2286
01:31:33,030 --> 01:31:31,360
absolutely not so let's take our break

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01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:33,040
right here our guest tonight ap

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sylvia part of our haunted rocktober

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2372
01:35:30,390 --> 01:35:29,040
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01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:18,229
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2378
01:36:22,870 --> 01:36:20,000
host jimmy church tonight ap

2379
01:36:24,709 --> 01:36:22,880
sylvia is here we are talking vampires

2380
01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:24,719
all night long

2381
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:27,840
that's right halloween is next week i

2382
01:36:33,109 --> 01:36:29,280
can't believe it

2383
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:33,119
and i hope i hope that uh

2384
01:36:36,950 --> 01:36:36,400
uh vampires vampires come and visit my

2385
01:36:38,229 --> 01:36:36,960
house

2386
01:36:40,229 --> 01:36:38,239
uh i don't know what's going to go on

2387
01:36:41,030 --> 01:36:40,239
with trick-or-treating kind of bummed

2388
01:36:44,229 --> 01:36:41,040
out about that

2389
01:36:47,189 --> 01:36:44,239
and uh before we uh continue here

2390
01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:47,199
um i want to get into uh historical

2391
01:36:51,270 --> 01:36:47,760
accounts

2392
01:36:54,070 --> 01:36:51,280
of actual vampires uh throughout history

2393
01:36:55,030 --> 01:36:54,080
and and we're going to do that but in in

2394
01:36:58,070 --> 01:36:55,040
romania

2395
01:36:58,629 --> 01:36:58,080
like today vampires are a serious

2396
01:37:02,310 --> 01:36:58,639
subject

2397
01:37:06,390 --> 01:37:02,320
aren't they i mean that is part of of

2398
01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:06,400
of culture yeah i mean i think it

2399
01:37:10,310 --> 01:37:09,040
um i think it probably depends on where

2400
01:37:13,430 --> 01:37:10,320
in romania

2401
01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:13,440
uh you know you are um i would think

2402
01:37:17,350 --> 01:37:14,639
probably in sort of the

2403
01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:17,360
you know the the uh urban areas the

2404
01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:18,800
cities and stuff like that

2405
01:37:22,550 --> 01:37:21,360
um maybe you know maybe not so much i

2406
01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:22,560
think in some

2407
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:26,960
remote places in some remote villages

2408
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:30,080
these beliefs do still persist

2409
01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:33,119
um there was uh i i briefly mentioned

2410
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:34,000
this in my book there was

2411
01:37:37,030 --> 01:37:36,320
an incident that happened in the 2000s

2412
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:37,040
where

2413
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:40,480
uh in a village people believed that um

2414
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:42,480
that they were being tormented by the

2415
01:37:45,109 --> 01:37:44,000
vampire of someone who was recently

2416
01:37:47,270 --> 01:37:45,119
deceased and they

2417
01:37:48,550 --> 01:37:47,280
kind of took action against uh against

2418
01:37:50,229 --> 01:37:48,560
the corpse and

2419
01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:50,239
uh made into some of the papers and made

2420
01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:52,239
into the uh kind of the international

2421
01:37:55,910 --> 01:37:53,040
press

2422
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:55,920
um so i think i think you know in some

2423
01:37:59,990 --> 01:37:56,639
places there

2424
01:38:02,229 --> 01:38:00,000
it is still you know it uh it is uh

2425
01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:02,239
you know still kind of wait wait wait

2426
01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:03,280
wait wait wait

2427
01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:06,480
there

2428
01:38:10,229 --> 01:38:08,800
what do you mean took action against the

2429
01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:10,239
corpse

2430
01:38:14,950 --> 01:38:13,520
oh they um i think they uh they

2431
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:14,960
i want to say they they cut out the

2432
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:17,280
heart of it really um

2433
01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:20,800
yeah oh man and this is

2434
01:38:27,990 --> 01:38:24,159
this is recent uh yeah this was in

2435
01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:28,000
uh it was 2004. wow um so yeah they uh

2436
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:30,480
they extracted the heart and they

2437
01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:32,880
uh impaled impaled the body with with

2438
01:38:39,430 --> 01:38:35,280
steaks and sprinkled it with garlic

2439
01:38:41,910 --> 01:38:39,440
um and so what what they did is the

2440
01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:41,920
the heart was uh was burned and mixed

2441
01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:42,960
with water

2442
01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:46,800
was uh given as a drink

2443
01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:49,679
apparently to the people who were ill as

2444
01:38:53,030 --> 01:38:50,800
a result of the

2445
01:38:54,149 --> 01:38:53,040
the vampire's visits you've got to be

2446
01:38:56,709 --> 01:38:54,159
kidding me

2447
01:38:58,229 --> 01:38:56,719
yeah no that that's uh well see they

2448
01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:58,239
take it serious then

2449
01:39:01,830 --> 01:39:00,320
they they they do and i but i i think i

2450
01:39:04,870 --> 01:39:01,840
i want to stress that this was

2451
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:04,880
i think this was you know in probably uh

2452
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:07,040
a rural area i don't think you know if

2453
01:39:10,310 --> 01:39:08,800
you if you take a flight over to romania

2454
01:39:11,350 --> 01:39:10,320
and start asking people about vampires i

2455
01:39:12,310 --> 01:39:11,360
don't think necessarily everyone's gonna

2456
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:12,320
be like oh yeah they're

2457
01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:14,800
they're real um you know it probably

2458
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:16,639
depends on where in the country you are

2459
01:39:20,709 --> 01:39:17,520
and who you're

2460
01:39:23,350 --> 01:39:20,719
who you're talking to um yeah i always

2461
01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:23,360
you're right about that now look if uh

2462
01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:25,280
if you and i go to romania

2463
01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:27,520
right and we're doing a little research

2464
01:39:32,709 --> 01:39:29,679
trip and we wander into some

2465
01:39:36,310 --> 01:39:32,719
tavern in some small town and start

2466
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:36,320
start talking vampires uh

2467
01:39:39,669 --> 01:39:37,920
i don't think we're gonna get greeted

2468
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:39,679
too well i i

2469
01:39:44,629 --> 01:39:42,560
you know it's just like the movies right

2470
01:39:47,350 --> 01:39:44,639
it's going to go silent

2471
01:39:48,070 --> 01:39:47,360
and nobody's going to talk to us about

2472
01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:48,080
it and

2473
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:50,159
because this is something that is part

2474
01:39:53,270 --> 01:39:51,600
of their culture

2475
01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:53,280
oh yeah i mean it's definitely it's you

2476
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:54,719
know it's part of the history it's part

2477
01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:55,600
of the culture

2478
01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:57,679
um and it could be you know it also

2479
01:40:01,750 --> 01:39:59,280
could be that some people like

2480
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:01,760
maybe don't don't appreciate sort of the

2481
01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:03,040
pop culture

2482
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:04,639
you know interest in it or something

2483
01:40:07,510 --> 01:40:06,800
like that or you know maybe they've kind

2484
01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:07,520
of felt that

2485
01:40:10,550 --> 01:40:09,600
you know they've they've heard enough

2486
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:10,560
about it

2487
01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:12,800
um i think it's sort of uh i i think

2488
01:40:16,709 --> 01:40:15,199
it's sort of an interesting kind of

2489
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:16,719
interesting situation because like you

2490
01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:18,400
know obviously some people go there and

2491
01:40:20,709 --> 01:40:19,760
they're interested in vampires they're

2492
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:20,719
interested in

2493
01:40:24,629 --> 01:40:22,719
uh you know like vlad you know vlad the

2494
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:24,639
impaler right so there's merchandise

2495
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:26,639
that's sold with vlad the impaler's face

2496
01:40:28,950 --> 01:40:27,760
on it and you know

2497
01:40:30,790 --> 01:40:28,960
people are there because you know

2498
01:40:31,669 --> 01:40:30,800
because of the associations to dracula

2499
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:31,679
and vampires

2500
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:34,159
but at the same time like vlad as i

2501
01:40:37,270 --> 01:40:35,199
understand it is

2502
01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:37,280
considered uh something of kind of a

2503
01:40:40,950 --> 01:40:38,400
folk hero

2504
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:40,960
in romania he's a national hero yeah

2505
01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:41,840
absolutely yes

2506
01:40:46,550 --> 01:40:44,560
yes because he sort of fought to sort of

2507
01:40:48,070 --> 01:40:46,560
preserve the independence of his country

2508
01:40:48,790 --> 01:40:48,080
and fought for the people and stuff like

2509
01:40:50,709 --> 01:40:48,800
that

2510
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:50,719
um so i think there's sort of an

2511
01:40:53,510 --> 01:40:51,920
interesting kind of

2512
01:40:55,270 --> 01:40:53,520
balance that probably happens there with

2513
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:55,280
well there's this tourist interest in

2514
01:40:58,390 --> 01:40:56,560
vampires

2515
01:40:59,590 --> 01:40:58,400
um but at the same time you know you

2516
01:41:01,910 --> 01:40:59,600
don't want to sort of

2517
01:41:03,669 --> 01:41:01,920
tr you know trivialize what they deem

2518
01:41:05,910 --> 01:41:03,679
culturally important

2519
01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:05,920
or sort of take it out of context no

2520
01:41:10,629 --> 01:41:08,400
they sell a lot of t-shirts

2521
01:41:12,550 --> 01:41:10,639
i'm sure they do yeah they so they they

2522
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:12,560
appreciate the tourism

2523
01:41:16,870 --> 01:41:14,960
but it's a fine balance for sure because

2524
01:41:20,229 --> 01:41:16,880
you have a national hero

2525
01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:20,239
um uh but but that castle

2526
01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:23,280
and and those towns invite a lot of

2527
01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:24,880
tourism from around the world

2528
01:41:30,950 --> 01:41:28,080
and so yeah you've got both now uh let's

2529
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:30,960
let's go to uh some of the actual

2530
01:41:37,669 --> 01:41:33,760
accounts of real life vampires

2531
01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:37,679
what's the earliest um

2532
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:40,000
well you know it's it's interesting i

2533
01:41:44,830 --> 01:41:41,840
think it depends on

2534
01:41:47,430 --> 01:41:44,840
it depends on how you want to define a

2535
01:41:49,990 --> 01:41:47,440
vampire so

2536
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:50,000
if you start reading about vampires and

2537
01:41:55,030 --> 01:41:51,199
stuff like that

2538
01:41:57,750 --> 01:41:55,040
you you inevitably run across stories of

2539
01:41:59,430 --> 01:41:57,760
like monsters and demons and things that

2540
01:42:01,590 --> 01:41:59,440
like oh drank blood and stuff

2541
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:01,600
so they often go well that was a vampire

2542
01:42:05,430 --> 01:42:03,280
or some or that's like a vampire

2543
01:42:08,070 --> 01:42:05,440
creature or something like that

2544
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:08,080
so oftentimes um maybe if you like you

2545
01:42:10,790 --> 01:42:08,960
know

2546
01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:10,800
if you watch a show about vampires or

2547
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:11,679
something like that they might talk

2548
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:12,320
about

2549
01:42:19,350 --> 01:42:15,760
uh like the story of of lilith who was

2550
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:19,360
um you know in uh

2551
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:21,199
like in this tradition like uh

2552
01:42:23,109 --> 01:42:22,880
considered like the first the first wife

2553
01:42:26,790 --> 01:42:23,119
of

2554
01:42:30,629 --> 01:42:26,800
lilith was the first wife

2555
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:30,639
who sort of refused to be uh subservient

2556
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:33,119
and and exited the guard rejected adam

2557
01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:34,320
exited the garden

2558
01:42:38,629 --> 01:42:36,400
and ends up sort of turning into this

2559
01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:38,639
this monster this demon that like

2560
01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:40,639
would come in the night and uh you know

2561
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:42,400
kill babies and stuff like that

2562
01:42:45,750 --> 01:42:44,560
so sometimes if you're if you're

2563
01:42:46,149 --> 01:42:45,760
researching vampires you might run

2564
01:42:48,470 --> 01:42:46,159
across

2565
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:48,480
a story like that and like it you know

2566
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:50,239
they'll sort of liken this character to

2567
01:42:55,350 --> 01:42:52,159
a vampire and something

2568
01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:55,360
now okay so right well

2569
01:42:58,870 --> 01:42:57,199
let me actually jump back to a point

2570
01:43:02,629 --> 01:42:58,880
that you just made

2571
01:43:02,950 --> 01:43:02,639
that what is uh a real vampire account

2572
01:43:05,109 --> 01:43:02,960
right

2573
01:43:06,629 --> 01:43:05,119
what comes into that well if i'm gonna

2574
01:43:08,830 --> 01:43:06,639
you know uh

2575
01:43:10,950 --> 01:43:08,840
you know click the check the boxes on

2576
01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:10,960
this uh

2577
01:43:15,750 --> 01:43:13,760
uh somebody that is you know biting the

2578
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:15,760
neck and drinking the blood

2579
01:43:23,030 --> 01:43:19,840
of of victims and apparently

2580
01:43:24,709 --> 01:43:23,040
is uh you know uh how do i say this

2581
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:24,719
doing this at night

2582
01:43:30,790 --> 01:43:28,000
uh isn't seen during the day and

2583
01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:30,800
and the town folk are calling him a

2584
01:43:35,189 --> 01:43:33,040
vampire

2585
01:43:36,629 --> 01:43:35,199
so so that's it so that's that's

2586
01:43:38,390 --> 01:43:36,639
interesting you've got some interesting

2587
01:43:40,149 --> 01:43:38,400
interesting points there and some

2588
01:43:43,430 --> 01:43:40,159
interesting interpretations

2589
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:43,440
um so for me when i started writing this

2590
01:43:46,709 --> 01:43:45,280
book and i kind of talk about this in my

2591
01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:46,719
book i said well i need to figure out

2592
01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:48,800
what the criteria for a vampire for

2593
01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:52,639
what a vampire is um because

2594
01:43:56,870 --> 01:43:54,400
i'm i'm you know you run across all

2595
01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:56,880
these stories of of like lilith or

2596
01:44:00,310 --> 01:43:59,040
um like you know in in sort of in

2597
01:44:00,709 --> 01:44:00,320
ancient greece there was a monster that

2598
01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:00,719
was

2599
01:44:04,470 --> 01:44:02,800
an impusa that it looked like a woman

2600
01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:04,480
but it would you know it had sort of

2601
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:05,920
magical powers and it would you know

2602
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:07,520
drink your blood and stuff like that

2603
01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:08,320
right

2604
01:44:11,990 --> 01:44:11,440
um but i was like well what what what

2605
01:44:13,590 --> 01:44:12,000
really

2606
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:13,600
how do i define a vampire so i can kind

2607
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:15,679
of hone in on what i think

2608
01:44:20,870 --> 01:44:18,880
is the most sort of what's what reflects

2609
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:20,880
sort of the the psychological

2610
01:44:24,149 --> 01:44:22,320
implications of what was going on so i

2611
01:44:27,669 --> 01:44:24,159
came up with three criteria

2612
01:44:31,270 --> 01:44:27,679
so my criteria were number one uh

2613
01:44:32,550 --> 01:44:31,280
it has to be the corpse of a once living

2614
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:32,560
person

2615
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:35,600
right so this was someone that was alive

2616
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:36,400
at one point

2617
01:44:40,149 --> 01:44:38,320
you know lived in a village somewhere

2618
01:44:42,470 --> 01:44:40,159
and now they're dead

2619
01:44:43,669 --> 01:44:42,480
it's that so i say i state that to

2620
01:44:46,310 --> 01:44:43,679
distinguish it from

2621
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:46,320
some kind of non-human entity like some

2622
01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:46,960
kind of

2623
01:44:52,070 --> 01:44:49,280
monster or demon or something like that

2624
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:52,080
that was never human to begin with

2625
01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:54,480
right so that was my first criteria my

2626
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:56,159
second criteria was that

2627
01:45:01,189 --> 01:44:59,280
it is harming the living in some way

2628
01:45:03,590 --> 01:45:01,199
right so i'm actually casting a bit of a

2629
01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:03,600
broader broader net than just

2630
01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:05,600
the the blood drinking because i think

2631
01:45:08,229 --> 01:45:07,119
if you simply focus on the blood

2632
01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:08,239
drinking you're going to miss

2633
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:11,520
a lot of other stories that i think are

2634
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:14,560
are relevant and sort of tie into

2635
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:16,800
the the underlying theme of vampires

2636
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:17,760
which is sort of

2637
01:45:23,189 --> 01:45:21,119
a fear of the dead okay okay

2638
01:45:24,709 --> 01:45:23,199
all right okay we'll we'll broaden the

2639
01:45:26,709 --> 01:45:24,719
scope

2640
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:26,719
and i can actually i'll i'll share i can

2641
01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:28,320
i can share an account with my kind of

2642
01:45:30,470 --> 01:45:29,760
put this in perspective a little bit

2643
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:30,480
okay um

2644
01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:33,280
and then lastly in order to get rid of

2645
01:45:36,629 --> 01:45:34,719
the vampire

2646
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:36,639
action has to be taken against the

2647
01:45:40,310 --> 01:45:38,400
corpse itself

2648
01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:40,320
right so there's a physicality to

2649
01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:41,679
vampires it's not like

2650
01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:43,679
kind of a disembodied spirit sort of

2651
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:45,360
untethered or something like that

2652
01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:48,000
vampire there's there's a real problem

2653
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:50,480
that is lying in the ground out there

2654
01:45:54,390 --> 01:45:52,560
and you need to take action against that

2655
01:45:56,950 --> 01:45:54,400
to save yourselves

2656
01:45:57,750 --> 01:45:56,960
so those were my those were my criteria

2657
01:46:01,910 --> 01:45:57,760
for

2658
01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:01,920
think you know

2659
01:46:05,430 --> 01:46:04,000
based upon that criteria i think you

2660
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:05,440
know you see there's

2661
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:07,440
vampire beliefs kind of throughout the

2662
01:46:10,310 --> 01:46:09,040
world in different forms and in

2663
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:10,320
different ways

2664
01:46:13,430 --> 01:46:12,159
um probably one of the earliest accounts

2665
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:13,440
i did run across

2666
01:46:17,189 --> 01:46:15,280
that really gave like a solid account

2667
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:17,199
was that one from like the 12th century

2668
01:46:20,870 --> 01:46:19,520
but i i think that these kinds of fears

2669
01:46:21,990 --> 01:46:20,880
these fears of the dead and stuff like

2670
01:46:25,750 --> 01:46:22,000
that would stretch back

2671
01:46:29,669 --> 01:46:25,760
you know much farther okay so

2672
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:29,679
the first uh the the account that you

2673
01:46:34,390 --> 01:46:30,880
just said you were going to

2674
01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:34,400
share with us sure so there was

2675
01:46:41,430 --> 01:46:37,840
uh an incident this was in uh the

2676
01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:41,440
the 1700s 1725 um

2677
01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:44,719
in uh in a town in serbia there was

2678
01:46:49,270 --> 01:46:47,840
uh you know a villager named uh peter

2679
01:46:53,590 --> 01:46:49,280
plegojowicz

2680
01:46:58,470 --> 01:46:53,600
and he he passes away one day

2681
01:47:01,910 --> 01:46:58,480
and then um some months later

2682
01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:01,920
more villagers start to die

2683
01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:04,400
so there's this illness people people

2684
01:47:09,189 --> 01:47:06,159
sort of they suddenly get sick

2685
01:47:11,669 --> 01:47:09,199
and they die very quickly um

2686
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:11,679
and the village starts getting very

2687
01:47:13,750 --> 01:47:13,040
concerned the villagers start getting

2688
01:47:15,910 --> 01:47:13,760
scared

2689
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:15,920
they see people sort of dying sort of

2690
01:47:19,189 --> 01:47:17,760
unexpectedly people who seemed healthy

2691
01:47:22,709 --> 01:47:19,199
suddenly they get sick

2692
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:22,719
they and and they die in short order and

2693
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:25,920
um there are some people who

2694
01:47:31,990 --> 01:47:29,440
are saying that oh well you know

2695
01:47:33,510 --> 01:47:32,000
peter who who was the first to die he

2696
01:47:36,709 --> 01:47:33,520
came to me in the night

2697
01:47:37,990 --> 01:47:36,719
and he he he sort of he lay on top of me

2698
01:47:41,350 --> 01:47:38,000
and strangled me

2699
01:47:44,790 --> 01:47:41,360
while i was while i was asleep um

2700
01:47:45,590 --> 01:47:44,800
so the the the the the fear and the

2701
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:45,600
suspicion

2702
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:48,960
sort of point towards pagodas

2703
01:47:52,149 --> 01:47:51,040
um and so i think it's important to note

2704
01:47:56,390 --> 01:47:52,159
that the

2705
01:47:57,109 --> 01:47:56,400
they're not saying that he was biting

2706
01:47:58,390 --> 01:47:57,119
them or

2707
01:48:00,550 --> 01:47:58,400
or anything like that he was saying that

2708
01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:00,560
they were being strangled in the night

2709
01:48:05,350 --> 01:48:04,080
right um so the villagers they wind up

2710
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:05,360
going to like the

2711
01:48:10,149 --> 01:48:08,320
this government official and they ask

2712
01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:10,159
they ask if they can exhume

2713
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:13,360
uh exhume the corpse and the official is

2714
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:15,119
kind of uh he's a little like well let

2715
01:48:19,030 --> 01:48:16,800
me ask my bosses

2716
01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:19,040
um and the villagers are like no we're

2717
01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:20,639
going to do this or we're just going to

2718
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:22,159
we're all going to abandon this village

2719
01:48:24,149 --> 01:48:23,520
because we're all going to die if we

2720
01:48:25,830 --> 01:48:24,159
stay here

2721
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:25,840
because this corpse is going to kill us

2722
01:48:29,510 --> 01:48:27,920
so the the the government officials like

2723
01:48:33,030 --> 01:48:29,520
all right you know let's

2724
01:48:36,550 --> 01:48:33,040
look we'll let's go do this and uh so

2725
01:48:39,590 --> 01:48:36,560
so you know they go they exhume

2726
01:48:42,790 --> 01:48:39,600
the body of of pagodas

2727
01:48:45,669 --> 01:48:42,800
and when they they

2728
01:48:46,070 --> 01:48:45,679
open up they open up the casket they

2729
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,080
look

2730
01:48:51,910 --> 01:48:49,199
at the corpse and they see

2731
01:48:55,109 --> 01:48:51,920
they see a condition that they were not

2732
01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:55,119
that you wouldn't normally expect to see

2733
01:49:02,070 --> 01:48:58,560
um in a decomposing body

2734
01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:02,080
so one thing is that the he looks

2735
01:49:06,070 --> 01:49:04,239
he looks very fresh he looks like he

2736
01:49:08,149 --> 01:49:06,080
hasn't decayed

2737
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:08,159
right he looks like he's he's still got

2738
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:09,440
this vitality

2739
01:49:12,550 --> 01:49:11,040
it looks like he's got like fresh

2740
01:49:15,109 --> 01:49:12,560
fingernails

2741
01:49:15,589 --> 01:49:15,119
um and one of the striking things is

2742
01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:15,599
that

2743
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:19,360
there is blood around the corpse's mouth

2744
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:22,480
and people see this blood and they go oh

2745
01:49:25,669 --> 01:49:24,320
that's the blood that he sucked from his

2746
01:49:27,910 --> 01:49:25,679
victims

2747
01:49:28,950 --> 01:49:27,920
right now how long was he in the ground

2748
01:49:31,589 --> 01:49:28,960
for

2749
01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:31,599
um i believe it was uh a number of

2750
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:32,239
months

2751
01:49:37,350 --> 01:49:34,800
whoa okay okay continue so what'd they

2752
01:49:41,030 --> 01:49:37,360
do with the body

2753
01:49:41,990 --> 01:49:41,040
so they they they cut a steak they take

2754
01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:42,000
a steak

2755
01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:44,000
they drive it into him and i guess blood

2756
01:49:48,310 --> 01:49:45,119
comes out

2757
01:49:51,430 --> 01:49:48,320
and then they burn the body and so

2758
01:49:52,310 --> 01:49:51,440
that that deals with and eliminates the

2759
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:52,320
uh

2760
01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:55,360
the vampire the vampire threat um

2761
01:49:58,709 --> 01:49:57,520
in some other accounts it mentions that

2762
01:50:01,669 --> 01:49:58,719
that um

2763
01:50:02,310 --> 01:50:01,679
that uh pagoda it's like visited his his

2764
01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:02,320
uh

2765
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:04,880
son and asked for food on a number of

2766
01:50:08,709 --> 01:50:05,840
nights and then ends up

2767
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:08,719
uh killing the sun and stuff like that

2768
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:09,679
but i think the

2769
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:12,719
this this account is very interesting in

2770
01:50:16,870 --> 01:50:13,760
the fact that

2771
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:16,880
um people weren't talking about blood

2772
01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:19,040
until they exhumed the corpse and they

2773
01:50:22,709 --> 01:50:21,280
see the blood around the mouth

2774
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:22,719
before he's exhumed they're talking

2775
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:25,280
about sort of being strangled by the

2776
01:50:29,430 --> 01:50:26,320
corpse

2777
01:50:31,030 --> 01:50:29,440
causing people to die they're it's

2778
01:50:34,550 --> 01:50:31,040
causing illness

2779
01:50:37,750 --> 01:50:34,560
um but then when they see the body then

2780
01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:37,760
it kind of raises it it it

2781
01:50:40,790 --> 01:50:39,840
i you know it brings about this other

2782
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:40,800
this other kind of

2783
01:50:46,149 --> 01:50:44,320
um explanation or or belief

2784
01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:46,159
and so what was really what was going on

2785
01:50:49,030 --> 01:50:47,360
and what was going on in a number of

2786
01:50:51,350 --> 01:50:49,040
these kinds of accounts

2787
01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:51,360
um was that there was a misunderstanding

2788
01:50:54,390 --> 01:50:52,800
well hey there's a misunderstanding

2789
01:50:56,229 --> 01:50:54,400
about kind of disease

2790
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:56,239
in general right people are looking to

2791
01:51:00,149 --> 01:50:57,679
explain something that

2792
01:51:00,790 --> 01:51:00,159
that's that's going on this kind of this

2793
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:00,800
this

2794
01:51:04,629 --> 01:51:02,800
dire situation but then when they look

2795
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:04,639
at the body they don't

2796
01:51:08,950 --> 01:51:06,159
there's they don't necessarily

2797
01:51:10,950 --> 01:51:08,960
understand the decomposition process

2798
01:51:12,470 --> 01:51:10,960
so they were expecting to see someone

2799
01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:12,480
who's sort of withering away

2800
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:14,800
and that kind of thing which you know

2801
01:51:17,189 --> 01:51:15,760
depending on

2802
01:51:18,629 --> 01:51:17,199
you know the temperature and time of

2803
01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:18,639
year and stuff like that it may take a

2804
01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:19,040
while

2805
01:51:24,470 --> 01:51:22,159
for a corpse to decompose um

2806
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:24,480
blood around the mouth can actually can

2807
01:51:28,390 --> 01:51:26,159
actually happen during the decomposition

2808
01:51:29,350 --> 01:51:28,400
process blue fluids can come out through

2809
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:29,360
the mouth

2810
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:30,960
which you know these villagers looking

2811
01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:33,360
at that wouldn't have necessarily known

2812
01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:36,960
um things like uh you know if the

2813
01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:38,800
the fingernails fall off the nail beds

2814
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:40,560
can look like new nails that sort of

2815
01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:41,520
thing

2816
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:42,960
and there are other accounts where

2817
01:51:47,750 --> 01:51:45,040
people would exhume a body

2818
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:47,760
and they would see it would look as if

2819
01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:49,840
the body had actually gained weight

2820
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:51,360
the person looked like they that they

2821
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:53,280
were heavier than they were in life

2822
01:51:56,950 --> 01:51:54,719
which is actually another thing that can

2823
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:56,960
happen during decomposition that gases

2824
01:52:02,310 --> 01:51:59,040
build up and blow out the body

2825
01:52:04,149 --> 01:52:02,320
so this this is kind of

2826
01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:04,159
a surprise i think even nowadays people

2827
01:52:07,109 --> 01:52:05,599
might be surprised to kind of learn

2828
01:52:07,990 --> 01:52:07,119
these sort of these sorts of things you

2829
01:52:09,669 --> 01:52:08,000
tend to think of

2830
01:52:11,750 --> 01:52:09,679
decomposition as someone sort of just

2831
01:52:13,189 --> 01:52:11,760
sort of withering away into a skeleton

2832
01:52:14,950 --> 01:52:13,199
uh and that's what these people were

2833
01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:14,960
looking for um

2834
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:18,320
but that's not necessarily what happens

2835
01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:19,760
depending on

2836
01:52:23,589 --> 01:52:21,760
the condition of the body the

2837
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:23,599
temperatures and and various other

2838
01:52:26,550 --> 01:52:25,040
things so people were seeing these

2839
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:26,560
natural processes

2840
01:52:33,750 --> 01:52:30,080
and um interpreting them as

2841
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:33,760
vampiric evidence um so there so there's

2842
01:52:36,790 --> 01:52:34,480
i think sort of

2843
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:36,800
an interesting story of how some of this

2844
01:52:40,709 --> 01:52:37,840
blood drinking

2845
01:52:42,550 --> 01:52:40,719
might have come into play with vampire

2846
01:52:44,709 --> 01:52:42,560
beliefs and that's not to take away from

2847
01:52:46,709 --> 01:52:44,719
sort of sort of the long-held beliefs of

2848
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:46,719
blood being associated with life and

2849
01:52:52,149 --> 01:52:48,719
stuff like that

2850
01:52:55,109 --> 01:52:52,159
there are so many accounts of uh

2851
01:52:55,750 --> 01:52:55,119
people you know biting the necks and and

2852
01:52:58,070 --> 01:52:55,760
drinking

2853
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:58,080
the blood of their victims in a modern

2854
01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:00,400
sense and we can certainly discuss that

2855
01:53:05,830 --> 01:53:03,520
but the other part about this

2856
01:53:06,629 --> 01:53:05,840
is that it makes you wonder about how

2857
01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:06,639
many

2858
01:53:12,550 --> 01:53:09,679
uh towns around the world

2859
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:12,560
dug up a corpse and and burned it and

2860
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:14,320
pulled the heart out

2861
01:53:21,589 --> 01:53:18,159
or or did things right uh to

2862
01:53:23,589 --> 01:53:21,599
to cure them of what was going on

2863
01:53:25,350 --> 01:53:23,599
in these towns and villages maybe even

2864
01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:25,360
cities too as well

2865
01:53:31,669 --> 01:53:28,560
um you know countless times and then

2866
01:53:33,030 --> 01:53:31,679
that the the stuff that was bothering

2867
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:33,040
the town or the

2868
01:53:38,470 --> 01:53:36,159
uh the village stopped right

2869
01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:38,480
so that that is their answer in the

2870
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:40,000
future if anything strange

2871
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:41,840
happens again and somebody starts

2872
01:53:47,270 --> 01:53:44,320
pointing the finger at somebody

2873
01:53:48,149 --> 01:53:47,280
right oh yeah it's it's so i mean we

2874
01:53:49,750 --> 01:53:48,159
there

2875
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:49,760
it's hard to know how many times has

2876
01:53:53,830 --> 01:53:51,760
happened and how many places i mean

2877
01:53:55,270 --> 01:53:53,840
clearly there's you know a tradition of

2878
01:53:57,990 --> 01:53:55,280
this in a variety you know

2879
01:53:59,589 --> 01:53:58,000
kind of in a variety of countries um

2880
01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:59,599
some of them we know about and are very

2881
01:54:03,510 --> 01:54:00,800
well documented

2882
01:54:05,589 --> 01:54:03,520
um like you know some of them make into

2883
01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:05,599
newspapers and stuff like that

2884
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:07,760
uh and cause a sensation but there's

2885
01:54:11,589 --> 01:54:09,360
probably many others that

2886
01:54:12,950 --> 01:54:11,599
no it was done and no one talked about

2887
01:54:15,270 --> 01:54:12,960
it and

2888
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:15,280
you know sort of the the village elders

2889
01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:16,400
or whatever sort of

2890
01:54:19,430 --> 01:54:18,000
kept that in mind and passed that

2891
01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:19,440
tradition along and

2892
01:54:23,830 --> 01:54:21,360
um you know well this this worked in the

2893
01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:23,840
past and you know it took care of it and

2894
01:54:27,669 --> 01:54:26,400
you know this this will do it again um i

2895
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:27,679
think it's you know

2896
01:54:30,229 --> 01:54:29,119
in a variety you know in a variety of

2897
01:54:31,510 --> 01:54:30,239
these tales i think it's important to

2898
01:54:34,149 --> 01:54:31,520
realize too that

2899
01:54:36,070 --> 01:54:34,159
you know people didn't have the benefit

2900
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:36,080
of the knowledge we have today

2901
01:54:39,910 --> 01:54:39,040
um they were they were seeing friends

2902
01:54:43,030 --> 01:54:39,920
and loved ones

2903
01:54:43,830 --> 01:54:43,040
get ill they were scared of losing more

2904
01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:43,840
people

2905
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:45,920
and so they were desperate and so you

2906
01:54:50,149 --> 01:54:47,119
know they they

2907
01:54:53,350 --> 01:54:50,159
resorted to desperate measures in

2908
01:54:55,109 --> 01:54:53,360
in an attempt to save lives

2909
01:54:56,629 --> 01:54:55,119
um so you you can only you can only

2910
01:55:00,149 --> 01:54:56,639
imagine kind of the the

2911
01:55:01,669 --> 01:55:00,159
the mindset that um you know that people

2912
01:55:03,189 --> 01:55:01,679
were in when they had to do the you know

2913
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:03,199
when they felt they had to do these

2914
01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:05,040
these kinds of things now what about

2915
01:55:07,830 --> 01:55:06,400
elizabeth bathory

2916
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:07,840
and the reason why i want to bring that

2917
01:55:12,390 --> 01:55:09,440
up would she

2918
01:55:14,470 --> 01:55:12,400
would she be classified as a vampire and

2919
01:55:17,669 --> 01:55:14,480
when you go back to

2920
01:55:20,709 --> 01:55:17,679
uh when she was in her reign of killing

2921
01:55:24,229 --> 01:55:20,719
you know the the late uh 15th

2922
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:24,239
you know 1575 to 1600

2923
01:55:29,830 --> 01:55:28,000
where she i guess the story goes

2924
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:29,840
she drank the blood of like a thousand

2925
01:55:33,310 --> 01:55:31,199
servant girls

2926
01:55:34,870 --> 01:55:33,320
to preserve her youth and and

2927
01:55:39,189 --> 01:55:34,880
immortality

2928
01:55:42,390 --> 01:55:39,199
um but that that was after vlad

2929
01:55:46,229 --> 01:55:42,400
but the vampire side of these

2930
01:55:46,709 --> 01:55:46,239
uh uh stories really hadn't you know

2931
01:55:49,510 --> 01:55:46,719
taken

2932
01:55:49,990 --> 01:55:49,520
root yet where did she get her ideas

2933
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:50,000
from

2934
01:55:56,149 --> 01:55:53,280
and would she be classified as a vampire

2935
01:55:57,189 --> 01:55:56,159
so i i would not classify her as a

2936
01:55:59,350 --> 01:55:57,199
vampire

2937
01:56:01,270 --> 01:55:59,360
i mean she was a living person right she

2938
01:56:04,550 --> 01:56:01,280
wasn't undead

2939
01:56:07,030 --> 01:56:04,560
um you know and and obviously this was

2940
01:56:08,310 --> 01:56:07,040
you know she was put on trial and stuff

2941
01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:08,320
like that and it's

2942
01:56:12,070 --> 01:56:09,840
this was hundreds of years ago so it's

2943
01:56:14,109 --> 01:56:12,080
always kind of it's always hard to tell

2944
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:14,119
what actually happened and what was

2945
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:15,679
sensationalized and

2946
01:56:19,910 --> 01:56:18,320
what was kind of said after the fact um

2947
01:56:23,030 --> 01:56:19,920
but basically it was it was

2948
01:56:26,149 --> 01:56:23,040
she was uh put on trial for you know

2949
01:56:27,270 --> 01:56:26,159
um uh killing and torturing like you

2950
01:56:30,149 --> 01:56:27,280
know

2951
01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:30,159
a large a large number of of of like

2952
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:31,679
sort of servants

2953
01:56:36,070 --> 01:56:34,800
um and there were stories and again it's

2954
01:56:37,910 --> 01:56:36,080
hard to know if you know how

2955
01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:37,920
historically accurate this is that she

2956
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:40,159
was you know bathing in the blood

2957
01:56:43,589 --> 01:56:42,800
to preserve her youth and and that sort

2958
01:56:46,310 --> 01:56:43,599
of thing

2959
01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:46,320
um but again she's not she's not a

2960
01:56:50,709 --> 01:56:48,239
vampire right because she's not like an

2961
01:56:52,470 --> 01:56:50,719
undead person she's not an undead you

2962
01:56:53,669 --> 01:56:52,480
know corpse that's that's going back to

2963
01:56:56,149 --> 01:56:53,679
the grave

2964
01:56:58,149 --> 01:56:56,159
um you know in in during the day and

2965
01:57:01,189 --> 01:56:58,159
stuff like that or or whatever she was

2966
01:57:02,870 --> 01:57:01,199
she was she was you know uh believed to

2967
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:02,880
be like a serial killer

2968
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:05,440
right and so she you know so then she's

2969
01:57:09,510 --> 01:57:05,920
she's

2970
01:57:10,229 --> 01:57:09,520
and i believe she ends up getting walled

2971
01:57:12,950 --> 01:57:10,239
up

2972
01:57:13,510 --> 01:57:12,960
in uh in a room in her in her castle and

2973
01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:13,520
then

2974
01:57:20,229 --> 01:57:16,800
and you know dies uh dies sometime later

2975
01:57:21,669 --> 01:57:20,239
um so yeah she often comes up in like

2976
01:57:23,109 --> 01:57:21,679
documentaries and stuff like that and

2977
01:57:24,870 --> 01:57:23,119
there's obviously these very these

2978
01:57:27,910 --> 01:57:24,880
interesting associations

2979
01:57:31,189 --> 01:57:27,920
uh between um you know the the

2980
01:57:32,310 --> 01:57:31,199
blood drinking and the youth and things

2981
01:57:34,070 --> 01:57:32,320
like that and that

2982
01:57:36,149 --> 01:57:34,080
obviously resonates very much with us

2983
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:36,159
and our modern notions about vampires

2984
01:57:40,870 --> 01:57:39,119
but i would i would um assert you know i

2985
01:57:41,589 --> 01:57:40,880
the way i would define a vampire i would

2986
01:57:43,270 --> 01:57:41,599
say no she

2987
01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:43,280
she wasn't a vampire and i actually

2988
01:57:46,149 --> 01:57:44,639
think there are some scholars that argue

2989
01:57:46,709 --> 01:57:46,159
that she might have actually been framed

2990
01:57:50,950 --> 01:57:46,719
for

2991
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:50,960
sure how uh how accurate that that is i

2992
01:57:54,229 --> 01:57:52,000
haven't i haven't

2993
01:57:55,910 --> 01:57:54,239
necessarily dug into it um there was

2994
01:57:56,629 --> 01:57:55,920
there was evidence against her and stuff

2995
01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:56,639
like that very

2996
01:58:00,070 --> 01:57:58,639
a lot of witness testimony and stuff but

2997
01:58:01,189 --> 01:58:00,080
again it was hundreds of years ago so

2998
01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:01,199
it's always kind of hard

2999
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:03,280
it's hard to know well you know you pull

3000
01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:05,440
into a village in slovakia

3001
01:58:09,510 --> 01:58:07,599
you know back then outside of her castle

3002
01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:09,520
and you're like where are all the girls

3003
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:12,560
yeah right i mean where is it where is

3004
01:58:17,510 --> 01:58:13,040
everyone

3005
01:58:21,350 --> 01:58:17,520
i mean 600 to uh you know a thousand

3006
01:58:24,790 --> 01:58:21,360
uh girls killed over a 20-year span

3007
01:58:27,350 --> 01:58:24,800
is you know and to be framed for that

3008
01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:27,360
uh and she was convicted i know i've

3009
01:58:30,870 --> 01:58:28,480
heard both sides of

3010
01:58:31,990 --> 01:58:30,880
of the story right that it's all it's

3011
01:58:34,310 --> 01:58:32,000
all made up

3012
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:34,320
uh there's there's always when there's

3013
01:58:38,950 --> 01:58:35,920
smoke there's fire

3014
01:58:40,390 --> 01:58:38,960
right but what i've always found

3015
01:58:44,070 --> 01:58:40,400
interesting with her case

3016
01:58:47,830 --> 01:58:44,080
is um the

3017
01:58:49,510 --> 01:58:47,840
the suggestion of youth and immortality

3018
01:58:51,830 --> 01:58:49,520
and the drinking of blood and the

3019
01:58:55,109 --> 01:58:51,840
bathing of blood and the victims

3020
01:58:57,430 --> 01:58:55,119
feels vampirish to me um

3021
01:58:59,510 --> 01:58:57,440
but you're right she wasn't necessarily

3022
01:59:02,229 --> 01:58:59,520
undead that we know of

3023
01:59:02,629 --> 01:59:02,239
yes and again you know blood also has

3024
01:59:05,189 --> 01:59:02,639
you know

3025
01:59:06,709 --> 01:59:05,199
these sort of ancient uh sort of

3026
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:06,719
associations with

3027
01:59:12,390 --> 01:59:10,000
life right so you you know

3028
01:59:14,070 --> 01:59:12,400
you could see how maybe sort of in a in

3029
01:59:16,550 --> 01:59:14,080
a twisted mind like well the

3030
01:59:17,990 --> 01:59:16,560
you know the the the blood will carry

3031
01:59:19,669 --> 01:59:18,000
the vitality of those

3032
01:59:21,030 --> 01:59:19,679
you know towards the the person

3033
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:21,040
consuming you know

3034
01:59:24,470 --> 01:59:22,560
you know bathing in there consuming it

3035
01:59:26,470 --> 01:59:24,480
or whatever but yeah it's it's

3036
01:59:27,750 --> 01:59:26,480
it's certainly a certainly a very

3037
01:59:29,910 --> 01:59:27,760
disturbing case

3038
01:59:31,109 --> 01:59:29,920
um and you know if if she would if it

3039
01:59:32,950 --> 01:59:31,119
was you know

3040
01:59:34,790 --> 01:59:32,960
framed and obviously then you have to

3041
01:59:35,350 --> 01:59:34,800
kind of contend with the evidence that

3042
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:35,360
was

3043
01:59:39,750 --> 01:59:38,239
there were some like 300 people

3044
01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:39,760
testified against her or something like

3045
01:59:42,229 --> 01:59:40,480
that

3046
01:59:43,910 --> 01:59:42,239
um but again it's hard to you know was

3047
01:59:44,629 --> 01:59:43,920
it all just hearsay or something like

3048
01:59:47,750 --> 01:59:44,639
that but

3049
01:59:49,589 --> 01:59:47,760
it is it is quite the story certainly

3050
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:49,599
certainly some some of some of the

3051
01:59:53,350 --> 01:59:51,760
elements resonate with us

3052
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:53,360
with with our with our notions about

3053
01:59:56,470 --> 01:59:54,800
vampires but i would say

3054
01:59:57,910 --> 01:59:56,480
she i would say for me she wasn't a

3055
01:59:59,589 --> 01:59:57,920
vampire and i don't think people at the

3056
02:00:01,990 --> 01:59:59,599
time would have considered her to be

3057
02:00:03,750 --> 02:00:02,000
like an undead vampire i think they they

3058
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probably just thought she was like a

3059
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you know a deranged serial killer now

3060
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who was uh who was a better vampire is

3061
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it is it bella lugosi

3062
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or christopher lee don't say tom cruise

3063
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we're not we're going to keep him out of

3064
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the play

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3066
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me i think bayla um i i

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you know take nothing away from from

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christopher lee i think christopher lee

3069
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brought

3070
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his dracula and the hammer films but um

3071
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i don't know bayla just i mean he's he's

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almost the the archetypal vampire at

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this point you know the

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the suave the kind of this this suave

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elegant

3076
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vampire he had the hungarian accent and

3077
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um i i think

3078
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you know when you watch that movie too

3079
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he he brought a lot of intensity

3080
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in sort of even just when he wasn't

3081
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speaking in his gaze and stuff like that

3082
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probably because he

3083
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came from the the theater background um

3084
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but i

3085
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i i i enjoy his his performance for sure

3086
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yeah one of the greatest lines in all of

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this is one of the best one of the best

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pretty good let's take a break right

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here

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all right welcome back paid to black i

3226
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am your host jimmy church

3227
02:07:05,270 --> 02:07:02,560
tonight ap sylvia is here part of our

3228
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haunted rocktober

3229
02:07:08,870 --> 02:07:07,280
discussing vampires all night long man

3230
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i've learned a lot tonight

3231
02:07:12,310 --> 02:07:11,119
and uh and thank you ap what a great

3232
02:07:17,030 --> 02:07:12,320
conversation

3233
02:07:18,470 --> 02:07:17,040
um haunted uh vampire locations here in

3234
02:07:22,069 --> 02:07:18,480
the united states

3235
02:07:24,709 --> 02:07:22,079
are there are there places i can go sure

3236
02:07:27,189 --> 02:07:24,719
there are a number of uh number of

3237
02:07:31,830 --> 02:07:27,199
locations you can you can check out

3238
02:07:34,870 --> 02:07:31,840
um so a number of them in new england

3239
02:07:38,310 --> 02:07:34,880
so there are a number of instances uh

3240
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:38,320
where uh you know back in the 19th

3241
02:07:43,109 --> 02:07:39,520
century and uh

3242
02:07:46,310 --> 02:07:43,119
and earlier where people believed

3243
02:07:47,669 --> 02:07:46,320
that the the dead were harming the

3244
02:07:50,149 --> 02:07:47,679
living

3245
02:07:50,870 --> 02:07:50,159
so and i talk about some of these places

3246
02:07:56,470 --> 02:07:50,880
uh

3247
02:07:58,069 --> 02:07:56,480
probably one of the one of the most

3248
02:08:02,950 --> 02:07:58,079
famous locations

3249
02:08:05,589 --> 02:08:02,960
uh is the the gravesite of mercy brown

3250
02:08:08,149 --> 02:08:05,599
and which is in uh exeter rhode island

3251
02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:08,159
it's it's in a cemetery there

3252
02:08:15,350 --> 02:08:11,840
um what the the story behind behind

3253
02:08:18,550 --> 02:08:15,360
that uh that incident uh revolves around

3254
02:08:22,310 --> 02:08:18,560
uh the brown family in uh was the uh

3255
02:08:25,510 --> 02:08:22,320
the late 1800s um

3256
02:08:29,510 --> 02:08:25,520
so uh during during this time

3257
02:08:33,430 --> 02:08:29,520
um the tuberculosis

3258
02:08:36,709 --> 02:08:33,440
was uh was could be could be a problem

3259
02:08:38,390 --> 02:08:36,719
uh and could could cause a lot

3260
02:08:40,229 --> 02:08:38,400
you know could cause a lot a lot a lot

3261
02:08:42,229 --> 02:08:40,239
of people to pass away

3262
02:08:43,990 --> 02:08:42,239
um so and that's what happened that was

3263
02:08:47,350 --> 02:08:44,000
what was happening with the brown family

3264
02:08:50,069 --> 02:08:47,360
so you had uh you had um

3265
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a mother and father and you had two

3266
02:08:53,910 --> 02:08:50,800
daughters

3267
02:08:57,830 --> 02:08:53,920
and a son so the

3268
02:09:01,430 --> 02:08:57,840
the mother passes from uh from

3269
02:09:04,950 --> 02:09:01,440
tuberculosis known then as consumption

3270
02:09:07,030 --> 02:09:04,960
one of the daughters passes from

3271
02:09:09,270 --> 02:09:07,040
from consumption as well and then like

3272
02:09:11,750 --> 02:09:09,280
another you know year or two later

3273
02:09:13,189 --> 02:09:11,760
another daughter passes mercy brown

3274
02:09:13,589 --> 02:09:13,199
passes from consumption i believe she

3275
02:09:18,229 --> 02:09:13,599
was

3276
02:09:22,310 --> 02:09:18,239
brother edwin uh

3277
02:09:25,589 --> 02:09:22,320
is also getting sick with consumption

3278
02:09:27,430 --> 02:09:25,599
so during this time uh

3279
02:09:28,950 --> 02:09:27,440
they didn't really have the they didn't

3280
02:09:31,189 --> 02:09:28,960
really have any treatments

3281
02:09:32,629 --> 02:09:31,199
for consumption edwin spent some time in

3282
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colorado they thought like

3283
02:09:36,550 --> 02:09:35,920
all right right i remember this story

3284
02:09:40,229 --> 02:09:36,560
now so

3285
02:09:42,069 --> 02:09:40,239
the father sent him away yes yes he goes

3286
02:09:43,750 --> 02:09:42,079
for colorado for a while in the hopes

3287
02:09:45,990 --> 02:09:43,760
that the dry air

3288
02:09:47,750 --> 02:09:46,000
would uh would which would heal it would

3289
02:09:48,790 --> 02:09:47,760
heal him because sometimes doctors

3290
02:09:50,629 --> 02:09:48,800
attributed

3291
02:09:51,910 --> 02:09:50,639
uh contributing contributing consumption

3292
02:09:54,310 --> 02:09:51,920
to like the the moist

3293
02:09:55,030 --> 02:09:54,320
air uh in the area or something like

3294
02:09:58,149 --> 02:09:55,040
that right

3295
02:09:59,990 --> 02:09:58,159
so um he ends up returning after the

3296
02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:00,000
death of his sister he is not getting

3297
02:10:05,589 --> 02:10:03,040
any better um so edwin who's

3298
02:10:06,149 --> 02:10:05,599
he's a he's a you know he's he's a grown

3299
02:10:10,470 --> 02:10:06,159
man

3300
02:10:13,990 --> 02:10:10,480
um he's kind of slowly slowly kind of

3301
02:10:14,470 --> 02:10:14,000
declining and so at this point um you

3302
02:10:17,750 --> 02:10:14,480
know

3303
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:17,760
wife

3304
02:10:20,870 --> 02:10:20,320
and he's lost two daughters and now he

3305
02:10:24,229 --> 02:10:20,880
is

3306
02:10:27,430 --> 02:10:24,239
on the verge of losing a son

3307
02:10:28,950 --> 02:10:27,440
um so at this point

3308
02:10:30,870 --> 02:10:28,960
uh you know there's really there's

3309
02:10:34,470 --> 02:10:30,880
really nothing else to be done

3310
02:10:35,109 --> 02:10:34,480
for you know uh from from you know the

3311
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:35,119
doctors

3312
02:10:39,750 --> 02:10:38,320
so so the father george uh he starts

3313
02:10:42,709 --> 02:10:39,760
hearing from

3314
02:10:44,470 --> 02:10:42,719
the you know the community that well

3315
02:10:46,550 --> 02:10:44,480
there's still one more thing that could

3316
02:10:50,310 --> 02:10:46,560
be done

3317
02:10:51,990 --> 02:10:50,320
it could be that the dead one of the

3318
02:10:53,669 --> 02:10:52,000
one of the previous people who had died

3319
02:10:57,830 --> 02:10:53,679
from consumption is now

3320
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:57,840
causing the illness in edwin

3321
02:11:02,950 --> 02:11:01,199
um and so you know

3322
02:11:04,709 --> 02:11:02,960
what happens is as kind of we've been

3323
02:11:07,189 --> 02:11:04,719
talking about all night

3324
02:11:08,709 --> 02:11:07,199
the people they go to the cemetery and

3325
02:11:12,149 --> 02:11:08,719
they exhume

3326
02:11:15,510 --> 02:11:12,159
the the corpses of the the three

3327
02:11:17,910 --> 02:11:15,520
family members who had passed away um

3328
02:11:18,790 --> 02:11:17,920
they looked the the mother and the older

3329
02:11:21,669 --> 02:11:18,800
sister

3330
02:11:23,189 --> 02:11:21,679
um they had been dead for uh you know a

3331
02:11:26,069 --> 02:11:23,199
few years already i believe

3332
02:11:26,790 --> 02:11:26,079
and so they had decomposed to the point

3333
02:11:29,990 --> 02:11:26,800
where

3334
02:11:33,589 --> 02:11:30,000
they were no longer under suspicion of

3335
02:11:35,270 --> 02:11:33,599
being vampires mercy on the other hand

3336
02:11:36,069 --> 02:11:35,280
had been dead i believe a few months at

3337
02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:36,079
this point

3338
02:11:39,270 --> 02:11:38,400
and i believe she had died in the winter

3339
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:39,280
and so

3340
02:11:46,550 --> 02:11:42,719
she still looked fresh and

3341
02:11:49,430 --> 02:11:46,560
and vibrant um so

3342
02:11:50,390 --> 02:11:49,440
they that right there is sort of an

3343
02:11:53,910 --> 02:11:50,400
indication that

3344
02:11:55,830 --> 02:11:53,920
something is amiss so they then they

3345
02:11:57,589 --> 02:11:55,840
cut out the heart and i believe the

3346
02:11:59,030 --> 02:11:57,599
liver and they believed that if these

3347
02:12:02,069 --> 02:11:59,040
organs had blood in them

3348
02:12:05,510 --> 02:12:02,079
that was an indication that uh

3349
02:12:05,990 --> 02:12:05,520
this this body was was harming the

3350
02:12:09,669 --> 02:12:06,000
living

3351
02:12:13,430 --> 02:12:09,679
right and wasn't there didn't they

3352
02:12:17,109 --> 02:12:13,440
find fresh blood in her heart

3353
02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:17,119
so they so the the people

3354
02:12:21,430 --> 02:12:19,360
the onlookers felt that it was that it

3355
02:12:24,229 --> 02:12:21,440
was fresh or fresh enough to be

3356
02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:24,239
kind of evidence i believe the doctor of

3357
02:12:27,430 --> 02:12:24,960
the village

3358
02:12:28,709 --> 02:12:27,440
felt that it was coagulated and was to

3359
02:12:31,990 --> 02:12:28,719
be expected

3360
02:12:32,709 --> 02:12:32,000
but the the the the people of the town

3361
02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:32,719
felt that

3362
02:12:36,470 --> 02:12:34,560
that they were satisfied with what they

3363
02:12:39,750 --> 02:12:36,480
saw that here was the evidence

3364
02:12:43,270 --> 02:12:39,760
that mercy that mercy brown was

3365
02:12:43,910 --> 02:12:43,280
causing the death of her her brother

3366
02:12:45,910 --> 02:12:43,920
edwin

3367
02:12:48,550 --> 02:12:45,920
now they did the same thing that they

3368
02:12:51,270 --> 02:12:48,560
did in romania back in 2004

3369
02:12:51,990 --> 02:12:51,280
right yes they they did and so this and

3370
02:12:54,870 --> 02:12:52,000
i found

3371
02:12:55,750 --> 02:12:54,880
i've found um references to this to this

3372
02:12:57,990 --> 02:12:55,760
tradition

3373
02:12:59,270 --> 02:12:58,000
um you know back you know in in older

3374
02:13:02,550 --> 02:12:59,280
accounts in romania

3375
02:13:03,750 --> 02:13:02,560
um so this this this was a thing um they

3376
02:13:06,470 --> 02:13:03,760
they took the heart and i believe they

3377
02:13:09,030 --> 02:13:06,480
took the liver they burned it on a stone

3378
02:13:10,950 --> 02:13:09,040
in the graveyard they took the ashes

3379
02:13:12,709 --> 02:13:10,960
they mixed it with water and they gave

3380
02:13:16,069 --> 02:13:12,719
it to edwin to drink

3381
02:13:19,109 --> 02:13:16,079
believing that that would cure him of

3382
02:13:22,149 --> 02:13:19,119
of his affliction um

3383
02:13:25,589 --> 02:13:22,159
unfortunately it did not and

3384
02:13:28,870 --> 02:13:25,599
edwin passes away a short time later

3385
02:13:31,589 --> 02:13:28,880
now there was a whole

3386
02:13:33,430 --> 02:13:31,599
vampire panic in new england too you

3387
02:13:34,550 --> 02:13:33,440
know at the same time right i mean mercy

3388
02:13:37,510 --> 02:13:34,560
brown was just

3389
02:13:39,109 --> 02:13:37,520
one right so so this had this happened

3390
02:13:42,550 --> 02:13:39,119
at various points

3391
02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:42,560
um you know in the 1800s and 1700s

3392
02:13:45,750 --> 02:13:44,800
in in new england um so there are a

3393
02:13:48,709 --> 02:13:45,760
number of accounts

3394
02:13:50,390 --> 02:13:48,719
about about this uh it's hard to say how

3395
02:13:52,310 --> 02:13:50,400
how many times it actually

3396
02:13:53,990 --> 02:13:52,320
happened because i don't think it was

3397
02:13:56,149 --> 02:13:54,000
something people necessarily

3398
02:13:57,030 --> 02:13:56,159
wanted to advertise or talk about very

3399
02:13:59,830 --> 02:13:57,040
much right

3400
02:14:01,430 --> 02:13:59,840
um certainly it's kind of a it's a sad

3401
02:14:03,669 --> 02:14:01,440
thing it's a gruesome thing

3402
02:14:04,870 --> 02:14:03,679
um the mercy brown one is well known

3403
02:14:06,629 --> 02:14:04,880
because that was it was in the late

3404
02:14:08,709 --> 02:14:06,639
1800s i believe was the last

3405
02:14:10,950 --> 02:14:08,719
time this was done in rhode island and

3406
02:14:12,550 --> 02:14:10,960
um the newspapers picked up on the story

3407
02:14:13,669 --> 02:14:12,560
so there were a number of newspaper

3408
02:14:16,709 --> 02:14:13,679
articles

3409
02:14:18,390 --> 02:14:16,719
that talked about it um and kind of you

3410
02:14:19,030 --> 02:14:18,400
know it was sort of this sensational

3411
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:19,040
thing

3412
02:14:23,030 --> 02:14:21,040
um but yeah this was it wasn't it wasn't

3413
02:14:23,830 --> 02:14:23,040
uh it was not sort of the only time it

3414
02:14:26,629 --> 02:14:23,840
happened

3415
02:14:27,910 --> 02:14:26,639
in in new england um and so like there

3416
02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:27,920
are some other grave sites

3417
02:14:31,990 --> 02:14:30,480
uh as well that can that um are around

3418
02:14:33,430 --> 02:14:32,000
that are associated to some of these

3419
02:14:36,470 --> 02:14:33,440
vampire incidents

3420
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:36,480
um one one in

3421
02:14:39,589 --> 02:14:37,840
there's one we don't know we don't know

3422
02:14:42,149 --> 02:14:39,599
where it is but this one happened in

3423
02:14:43,189 --> 02:14:42,159
in massachusetts i believe they they uh

3424
02:14:45,270 --> 02:14:43,199
you know the

3425
02:14:46,390 --> 02:14:45,280
siblings were dying and and one of the

3426
02:14:48,550 --> 02:14:46,400
one of the siblings was

3427
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:48,560
thought to be to blame they exhumed they

3428
02:14:51,030 --> 02:14:49,760
i think they exhumed the body and i

3429
02:14:52,390 --> 02:14:51,040
think they turned it upside down or

3430
02:14:53,270 --> 02:14:52,400
something like that believing that it

3431
02:14:55,830 --> 02:14:53,280
wouldn't uh

3432
02:14:56,950 --> 02:14:55,840
it wouldn't find its way out flipped it

3433
02:15:00,390 --> 02:14:56,960
over and then yeah

3434
02:15:03,589 --> 02:15:00,400
yeah yeah yeah um

3435
02:15:04,470 --> 02:15:03,599
yeah that's uh that whole that whole

3436
02:15:08,229 --> 02:15:04,480
string

3437
02:15:11,109 --> 02:15:08,239
um in in new england at that time uh

3438
02:15:11,910 --> 02:15:11,119
the newspapers were picking up on it and

3439
02:15:15,270 --> 02:15:11,920
and

3440
02:15:15,830 --> 02:15:15,280
uh vampires were walking around in new

3441
02:15:17,750 --> 02:15:15,840
england

3442
02:15:19,510 --> 02:15:17,760
at that time they really felt that this

3443
02:15:22,870 --> 02:15:19,520
is what was going on

3444
02:15:25,990 --> 02:15:22,880
what about modern accounts

3445
02:15:26,709 --> 02:15:26,000
uh in the 20th century and and the 21st

3446
02:15:31,189 --> 02:15:26,719
century

3447
02:15:33,750 --> 02:15:31,199
of of of people drinking blood

3448
02:15:35,189 --> 02:15:33,760
um well i mean i i guess it depends on

3449
02:15:36,229 --> 02:15:35,199
if you're getting into more of like the

3450
02:15:37,669 --> 02:15:36,239
um

3451
02:15:39,589 --> 02:15:37,679
uh if you're if you're thinking of like

3452
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:39,599
the supernatural kind of accounts or

3453
02:15:41,990 --> 02:15:41,040
just sort of people who like think

3454
02:15:45,030 --> 02:15:42,000
they're vampires

3455
02:15:48,629 --> 02:15:45,040
right right right well actually both but

3456
02:15:49,189 --> 02:15:48,639
what about uh the people that think that

3457
02:15:51,350 --> 02:15:49,199
they are

3458
02:15:53,350 --> 02:15:51,360
vampires sure i mean there there are

3459
02:15:54,470 --> 02:15:53,360
some conditions where people do think

3460
02:15:57,189 --> 02:15:54,480
that they need to

3461
02:15:58,550 --> 02:15:57,199
consume blood or something like that um

3462
02:16:00,709 --> 02:15:58,560
and you know there are obviously

3463
02:16:01,990 --> 02:16:00,719
been some some you know some other

3464
02:16:03,990 --> 02:16:02,000
accounts where there's some some

3465
02:16:05,830 --> 02:16:04,000
sort of gruesome things and murders and

3466
02:16:08,470 --> 02:16:05,840
stuff like that um

3467
02:16:09,030 --> 02:16:08,480
so there are there are that i guess has

3468
02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:09,040
happened

3469
02:16:12,390 --> 02:16:11,119
where people do you know you know they

3470
02:16:13,189 --> 02:16:12,400
have sort of a condition where they

3471
02:16:16,790 --> 02:16:13,199
believe

3472
02:16:18,310 --> 02:16:16,800
there's other i mean

3473
02:16:19,990 --> 02:16:18,320
there's other people too i think that

3474
02:16:21,910 --> 02:16:20,000
that they think that they need to

3475
02:16:24,550 --> 02:16:21,920
consume small amounts of blood to

3476
02:16:25,350 --> 02:16:24,560
to feel normal um and then of course

3477
02:16:27,510 --> 02:16:25,360
there's also these

3478
02:16:29,030 --> 02:16:27,520
like people who they're like energy

3479
02:16:30,709 --> 02:16:29,040
vampires they think they need to absorb

3480
02:16:33,349 --> 02:16:30,719
the energy from people

3481
02:16:35,030 --> 02:16:33,359
um or something like that so there's a

3482
02:16:35,669 --> 02:16:35,040
lot of different sort of interpretations

3483
02:16:38,709 --> 02:16:35,679
and stuff

3484
02:16:39,830 --> 02:16:38,719
that is not necessarily where um where

3485
02:16:43,190 --> 02:16:39,840
my

3486
02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:43,200
haven't

3487
02:16:47,750 --> 02:16:46,880
think that they're vampires or something

3488
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:47,760
like that

3489
02:16:50,709 --> 02:16:49,120
i haven't really gotten into that but

3490
02:16:52,389 --> 02:16:50,719
there is a community of folks out there

3491
02:16:54,469 --> 02:16:52,399
that um

3492
02:16:56,070 --> 02:16:54,479
that sort of do sort of feel that they

3493
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:56,080
have these these

3494
02:16:59,990 --> 02:16:58,719
um urges or tendencies or whatever and i

3495
02:17:01,349 --> 02:17:00,000
think there's other folks too that just

3496
02:17:03,110 --> 02:17:01,359
they kind of like the aesthetic of

3497
02:17:05,830 --> 02:17:03,120
vampires and uh

3498
02:17:07,429 --> 02:17:05,840
uh you know sort of sort of like to like

3499
02:17:10,469 --> 02:17:07,439
to dress and and

3500
02:17:13,270 --> 02:17:10,479
uh behave in a certain certain fashion

3501
02:17:14,629 --> 02:17:13,280
um i mean terms of actual sort of uh

3502
02:17:16,150 --> 02:17:14,639
folklore supernatural beliefs or

3503
02:17:19,669 --> 02:17:16,160
something obviously we talked about the

3504
02:17:21,990 --> 02:17:19,679
the accounts in the 2000s um there was

3505
02:17:24,709 --> 02:17:22,000
there was an incident in oh it was like

3506
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:24,719
the late 60s early 70s in london

3507
02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:28,479
the highgate vampire um where uh

3508
02:17:32,150 --> 02:17:30,479
people were seeing this like highgate

3509
02:17:34,870 --> 02:17:32,160
cemetery is this this very sort of

3510
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:34,880
beautiful victorian cemetery in london

3511
02:17:42,950 --> 02:17:39,120
um and uh it's uh it's it's got a great

3512
02:17:44,309 --> 02:17:42,960
aesthetic to it um there were people

3513
02:17:46,709 --> 02:17:44,319
believing that they saw this kind of

3514
02:17:47,750 --> 02:17:46,719
shadowy figure looming around the

3515
02:17:51,110 --> 02:17:47,760
cemetery

3516
02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:51,120
and um uh animals drained of blood were

3517
02:17:53,589 --> 02:17:52,000
showing up

3518
02:17:55,509 --> 02:17:53,599
were being found on the grounds and

3519
02:17:57,030 --> 02:17:55,519
stuff like that and the the whole there

3520
02:17:58,709 --> 02:17:57,040
was you know there's a lot of newspaper

3521
02:17:59,750 --> 02:17:58,719
articles and and people coming out and

3522
02:18:00,230 --> 02:17:59,760
talking about it and the whole thing

3523
02:18:05,509 --> 02:18:00,240
kind of

3524
02:18:06,790 --> 02:18:05,519
stormed the cemetery and ended up

3525
02:18:09,349 --> 02:18:06,800
causing a lot of sort of

3526
02:18:10,070 --> 02:18:09,359
uh vandalism and damage and that sort of

3527
02:18:11,910 --> 02:18:10,080
thing

3528
02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:11,920
um but highgate cemetery is also

3529
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:13,120
interesting because they

3530
02:18:17,830 --> 02:18:15,679
um some of the uh it was a setting for

3531
02:18:19,910 --> 02:18:17,840
some of the hammer dracula movies

3532
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:19,920
um i think taste the blood of dracula

3533
02:18:23,270 --> 02:18:21,280
there's they shoot some scenes at

3534
02:18:24,950 --> 02:18:23,280
highgate cemetery

3535
02:18:27,509 --> 02:18:24,960
and also some people think that highgate

3536
02:18:28,790 --> 02:18:27,519
cemetery was the inspiration for bram

3537
02:18:31,990 --> 02:18:28,800
stoker's

3538
02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:32,000
uh the scene in dracula where they go uh

3539
02:18:35,669 --> 02:18:34,719
to uh destroy the vampire of lucy weston

3540
02:18:37,429 --> 02:18:35,679
roth they feel that

3541
02:18:39,349 --> 02:18:37,439
stoker base that was thinking of

3542
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:39,359
highgate when he when he created that

3543
02:18:43,910 --> 02:18:41,120
cemetery setting

3544
02:18:44,469 --> 02:18:43,920
i uh and prepping uh for the show

3545
02:18:47,589 --> 02:18:44,479
tonight

3546
02:18:48,549 --> 02:18:47,599
i went and looked uh to see if there

3547
02:18:52,469 --> 02:18:48,559
were

3548
02:18:54,389 --> 02:18:52,479
uh anybody that was accused of drinking

3549
02:18:58,309 --> 02:18:54,399
blood in modern history

3550
02:19:01,429 --> 02:18:58,319
and uh i i was shocked

3551
02:19:02,870 --> 02:19:01,439
to see the list of uh you know there's a

3552
02:19:06,150 --> 02:19:02,880
peter curtain

3553
02:19:06,469 --> 02:19:06,160
uh the the vampire of dusseldorf uh oh

3554
02:19:13,270 --> 02:19:06,479
yeah

3555
02:19:20,150 --> 02:19:17,589
joseph thatcher uh the french ripper

3556
02:19:20,629 --> 02:19:20,160
and that that guy was out of control

3557
02:19:24,709 --> 02:19:20,639
neville

3558
02:19:28,790 --> 02:19:24,719
heath uh uh andre

3559
02:19:29,349 --> 02:19:28,800
uh uh chicatilo from from russia very

3560
02:19:32,629 --> 02:19:29,359
famous

3561
02:19:36,309 --> 02:19:32,639
uh uh serial killer out of russia

3562
02:19:40,870 --> 02:19:36,319
uh vincenzo ver uh verzini

3563
02:19:44,549 --> 02:19:40,880
uh again this goes back to the 1870s

3564
02:19:48,070 --> 02:19:44,559
uh but uh 12 people uh

3565
02:19:50,630 --> 02:19:48,080
he killed and drank their blood um

3566
02:19:52,630 --> 02:19:50,640
the the uh the vampire of sacramento

3567
02:19:56,230 --> 02:19:52,640
right here in california

3568
02:19:59,270 --> 02:19:56,240
um uh what was his name richard chase

3569
02:20:03,349 --> 02:19:59,280
a very famous case out here um

3570
02:20:04,070 --> 02:20:03,359
but again uh i had i had no idea that

3571
02:20:06,790 --> 02:20:04,080
this was

3572
02:20:08,710 --> 02:20:06,800
was going on as frequently as it has

3573
02:20:09,590 --> 02:20:08,720
been in the 20th century in the 21st

3574
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:09,600
century

3575
02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:11,280
um yeah it's very it is very disturbing

3576
02:20:14,070 --> 02:20:12,640
and i think probably it's important to

3577
02:20:16,230 --> 02:20:14,080
draw a distinction between

3578
02:20:17,590 --> 02:20:16,240
kind of these these serial mur these

3579
02:20:19,349 --> 02:20:17,600
kind of serial killer

3580
02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:19,359
cases that you're talking about with you

3581
02:20:21,990 --> 02:20:21,359
know sort of uh blood consumption stuff

3582
02:20:25,429 --> 02:20:22,000
like that

3583
02:20:27,429 --> 02:20:25,439
and sort of the the vampire community

3584
02:20:29,830 --> 02:20:27,439
out there where people believe they need

3585
02:20:31,429 --> 02:20:29,840
to have small amounts of blood from

3586
02:20:33,510 --> 02:20:31,439
willing participants

3587
02:20:34,630 --> 02:20:33,520
right right so probably important to

3588
02:20:37,990 --> 02:20:34,640
draw that distinction

3589
02:20:40,550 --> 02:20:38,000
no absolutely uh and and they're

3590
02:20:41,429 --> 02:20:40,560
it's what's going through their mind you

3591
02:20:44,630 --> 02:20:41,439
know are they

3592
02:20:47,190 --> 02:20:44,640
influenced by christopher lee right

3593
02:20:48,870 --> 02:20:47,200
are they influenced uh by some of the

3594
02:20:50,469 --> 02:20:48,880
pop culture that is out there oh i

3595
02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:50,479
wanted to ask you before

3596
02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:53,680
a couple of other uh points that i

3597
02:20:57,750 --> 02:20:55,680
meant to bring up earlier uh the first

3598
02:21:00,070 --> 02:20:57,760
one is a vampire has to be

3599
02:21:02,150 --> 02:21:00,080
invited in the house where where are the

3600
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:02,160
origins for this

3601
02:21:07,030 --> 02:21:05,280
um you know it that's that's one where

3602
02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:07,040
it certainly ha it feels like it should

3603
02:21:09,429 --> 02:21:08,800
be in folklore it sort of has that ring

3604
02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:09,439
to it

3605
02:21:13,830 --> 02:21:12,399
but um the first time it is really

3606
02:21:17,990 --> 02:21:13,840
definitively said

3607
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:18,000
is in um is in dracula in stoker's work

3608
02:21:23,349 --> 02:21:21,120
um there are there are some

3609
02:21:25,750 --> 02:21:23,359
folkloric accounts that might kind of

3610
02:21:27,110 --> 02:21:25,760
move the needle in that direction

3611
02:21:28,870 --> 02:21:27,120
there were some beliefs where like the

3612
02:21:30,469 --> 02:21:28,880
vampire would um

3613
02:21:32,150 --> 02:21:30,479
would call it would go to your door and

3614
02:21:34,309 --> 02:21:32,160
call out to you and

3615
02:21:35,910 --> 02:21:34,319
if you responded you would you would

3616
02:21:38,870 --> 02:21:35,920
subsequently die

3617
02:21:40,389 --> 02:21:38,880
um it was also in those beliefs it was

3618
02:21:42,630 --> 02:21:40,399
also thought that the vampire

3619
02:21:43,429 --> 02:21:42,640
would only ask either like two times or

3620
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:43,439
three times

3621
02:21:46,389 --> 02:21:45,040
so you wouldn't ask until someone called

3622
02:21:48,070 --> 02:21:46,399
out for you like three times or

3623
02:21:50,230 --> 02:21:48,080
something like that

3624
02:21:52,150 --> 02:21:50,240
um but it was really not about getting

3625
02:21:52,950 --> 02:21:52,160
an invitation in or something like that

3626
02:21:56,630 --> 02:21:52,960
was more

3627
02:21:58,309 --> 02:21:56,640
responding to a call um

3628
02:22:00,070 --> 02:21:58,319
so there's another there was another

3629
02:22:03,830 --> 02:22:00,080
account where um

3630
02:22:05,510 --> 02:22:03,840
uh this uh uh this this girl's lover

3631
02:22:07,510 --> 02:22:05,520
dies unbeknownst to her

3632
02:22:09,910 --> 02:22:07,520
and so his vampire comes to her one

3633
02:22:11,510 --> 02:22:09,920
night outside her window

3634
02:22:13,349 --> 02:22:11,520
and asks her to come out to him because

3635
02:22:16,389 --> 02:22:13,359
in this in this story

3636
02:22:17,270 --> 02:22:16,399
uh in this this this folktale vampires

3637
02:22:20,309 --> 02:22:17,280
couldn't enter

3638
02:22:21,110 --> 02:22:20,319
houses that were uh considered clean and

3639
02:22:24,150 --> 02:22:21,120
holy

3640
02:22:25,750 --> 02:22:24,160
are the terms they use um so

3641
02:22:27,030 --> 02:22:25,760
even if she had tried even if she had

3642
02:22:28,230 --> 02:22:27,040
tried to invite him in he wouldn't have

3643
02:22:30,630 --> 02:22:28,240
been able to come in

3644
02:22:31,270 --> 02:22:30,640
he had to get her out of the house um

3645
02:22:32,870 --> 02:22:31,280
because

3646
02:22:34,309 --> 02:22:32,880
he he would have been barred from

3647
02:22:36,870 --> 02:22:34,319
entering so again

3648
02:22:37,750 --> 02:22:36,880
moving the needle in that direction of

3649
02:22:39,429 --> 02:22:37,760
of kind of the

3650
02:22:41,030 --> 02:22:39,439
this notion of invitations or vampires

3651
02:22:44,070 --> 02:22:41,040
can't get in um

3652
02:22:45,750 --> 02:22:44,080
but ultimately it does it does um

3653
02:22:47,110 --> 02:22:45,760
come from stoker there's also a couple

3654
02:22:50,070 --> 02:22:47,120
other um

3655
02:22:51,830 --> 02:22:50,080
literary uh literary sources like you

3656
02:22:52,870 --> 02:22:51,840
know stories and stuff that again move

3657
02:22:54,790 --> 02:22:52,880
the needle but

3658
02:22:57,030 --> 02:22:54,800
it is it is kind of stoker and if you

3659
02:22:58,950 --> 02:22:57,040
look at some of the accounts

3660
02:23:00,630 --> 02:22:58,960
it sort of makes sense that inviting

3661
02:23:01,429 --> 02:23:00,640
vampires in really wasn't present

3662
02:23:03,590 --> 02:23:01,439
because

3663
02:23:05,429 --> 02:23:03,600
you know people are people are getting

3664
02:23:06,630 --> 02:23:05,439
sick people are dying no one's inviting

3665
02:23:07,750 --> 02:23:06,640
any vampires in

3666
02:23:09,670 --> 02:23:07,760
they're just seeing their friends and

3667
02:23:12,790 --> 02:23:09,680
neighbors you know get ill

3668
02:23:15,190 --> 02:23:12,800
um so it sort of stands to reason that

3669
02:23:16,790 --> 02:23:15,200
they thought something something more

3670
02:23:18,710 --> 02:23:16,800
substantial had to be done to keep the

3671
02:23:23,030 --> 02:23:18,720
vampire out now what about

3672
02:23:26,630 --> 02:23:23,040
fangs oh yeah i i i can ruin this one

3673
02:23:30,309 --> 02:23:29,110
sometimes sometimes i feel kind of bad

3674
02:23:33,590 --> 02:23:30,319
um

3675
02:23:36,389 --> 02:23:33,600
there are no fangs in folklore actually

3676
02:23:37,990 --> 02:23:36,399
it's it it doesn't come up it's it's

3677
02:23:40,790 --> 02:23:38,000
actually never mentioned that

3678
02:23:42,389 --> 02:23:40,800
um vampires have fangs you know the

3679
02:23:44,950 --> 02:23:42,399
extended canines that

3680
02:23:46,870 --> 02:23:44,960
that we think of and associate so much

3681
02:23:49,030 --> 02:23:46,880
with vampires

3682
02:23:50,790 --> 02:23:49,040
there are there are a couple references

3683
02:23:53,110 --> 02:23:50,800
to vampires having

3684
02:23:55,270 --> 02:23:53,120
elongated teeth but they use the term

3685
02:23:56,550 --> 02:23:55,280
teeth they don't use fangs or canines or

3686
02:23:59,429 --> 02:23:56,560
anything like that

3687
02:23:59,990 --> 02:23:59,439
um some people have interpreted that to

3688
02:24:04,630 --> 02:24:00,000
maybe

3689
02:24:05,910 --> 02:24:04,640
misconstruing the receding gums due to

3690
02:24:08,070 --> 02:24:05,920
decomposition

3691
02:24:09,750 --> 02:24:08,080
um but you know there's no fangs and

3692
02:24:11,670 --> 02:24:09,760
there's no like the two that those

3693
02:24:12,950 --> 02:24:11,680
kind of the iconic two little wounds in

3694
02:24:15,510 --> 02:24:12,960
the neck

3695
02:24:16,630 --> 02:24:15,520
that is also not present in folklore um

3696
02:24:18,630 --> 02:24:16,640
if there are if

3697
02:24:20,070 --> 02:24:18,640
if there are wounds if there is a wound

3698
02:24:21,910 --> 02:24:20,080
on the neck it's just one it's mentioned

3699
02:24:24,710 --> 02:24:21,920
that there was a wound on the neck

3700
02:24:25,030 --> 02:24:24,720
um in some in some accounts um but not

3701
02:24:28,630 --> 02:24:25,040
like

3702
02:24:30,309 --> 02:24:28,640
accounts

3703
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:30,319
there's no talk of any kind of wounds

3704
02:24:34,550 --> 02:24:32,160
but they see the blood on the vampire

3705
02:24:37,670 --> 02:24:34,560
and they assume it's been drinking blood

3706
02:24:39,990 --> 02:24:37,680
uh the fangs were introduced in a penny

3707
02:24:43,190 --> 02:24:40,000
dreadful called varney the vampire

3708
02:24:46,150 --> 02:24:43,200
um from uh it was like the 1840s

3709
02:24:46,950 --> 02:24:46,160
there was a very long running um uh

3710
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:46,960
serial

3711
02:24:50,790 --> 02:24:48,880
uh that kind of that covered the

3712
02:24:53,830 --> 02:24:50,800
exploits of this vampire named

3713
02:24:56,550 --> 02:24:53,840
sir francis varney and he uh in

3714
02:24:58,550 --> 02:24:56,560
in the story he has he has fangs and

3715
02:25:00,550 --> 02:24:58,560
leaves the two puncture wounds

3716
02:25:01,670 --> 02:25:00,560
and um you know it's something that we

3717
02:25:03,429 --> 02:25:01,680
that's sort of

3718
02:25:04,870 --> 02:25:03,439
it's just a given for us today it's so

3719
02:25:06,389 --> 02:25:04,880
it's such an established piece of

3720
02:25:07,590 --> 02:25:06,399
imagery but you can kind of imagine how

3721
02:25:08,710 --> 02:25:07,600
sort of fresh it would have been to

3722
02:25:11,670 --> 02:25:08,720
victorian readers

3723
02:25:12,710 --> 02:25:11,680
well okay so the biting of the neck and

3724
02:25:16,950 --> 02:25:12,720
the fangs

3725
02:25:17,990 --> 02:25:16,960
is is only 200 years old right which i

3726
02:25:21,190 --> 02:25:18,000
would consider

3727
02:25:23,990 --> 02:25:21,200
the modern side of of writing

3728
02:25:25,270 --> 02:25:24,000
and and documentation but going back

3729
02:25:29,110 --> 02:25:25,280
into the

3730
02:25:30,710 --> 02:25:29,120
uh 1700 1600 1500 there was

3731
02:25:32,870 --> 02:25:30,720
no biting of the neck how were they

3732
02:25:33,590 --> 02:25:32,880
drinking the blood so so there might

3733
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:33,600
have been

3734
02:25:40,070 --> 02:25:37,040
a wound on the neck

3735
02:25:41,990 --> 02:25:40,080
but it wouldn't have been the fangs

3736
02:25:43,190 --> 02:25:42,000
right so they might have been they might

3737
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:43,200
have um

3738
02:25:45,910 --> 02:25:44,800
sort of attacked the neck and taken

3739
02:25:46,469 --> 02:25:45,920
blood from the neck but it wouldn't have

3740
02:25:47,750 --> 02:25:46,479
been through

3741
02:25:52,070 --> 02:25:47,760
through like the two little puncture

3742
02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:52,080
wounds a slashing of the neck

3743
02:25:55,590 --> 02:25:54,640
um well there was one there was one

3744
02:25:57,190 --> 02:25:55,600
belief that

3745
02:25:59,910 --> 02:25:57,200
um i think it was it was i think it was

3746
02:26:02,309 --> 02:25:59,920
in russia the the vampire had like a

3747
02:26:06,389 --> 02:26:02,319
barb on the end of its tongue

3748
02:26:08,790 --> 02:26:06,399
like uh like a stinger almost um and so

3749
02:26:10,070 --> 02:26:08,800
that that's that's one case um so

3750
02:26:11,110 --> 02:26:10,080
sometimes i wonder if like

3751
02:26:13,190 --> 02:26:11,120
some of the stories that had the

3752
02:26:15,910 --> 02:26:13,200
singular wound might have been kind of

3753
02:26:16,630 --> 02:26:15,920
related to that um i think there is

3754
02:26:19,270 --> 02:26:16,640
there was

3755
02:26:21,190 --> 02:26:19,280
um there were some accounts one account

3756
02:26:21,670 --> 02:26:21,200
i read well one sort of folk tale i read

3757
02:26:24,070 --> 02:26:21,680
was

3758
02:26:25,830 --> 02:26:24,080
the vampire kind of um he entered the

3759
02:26:26,389 --> 02:26:25,840
house and he kind of struck someone on

3760
02:26:28,550 --> 02:26:26,399
the back

3761
02:26:30,389 --> 02:26:28,560
and and and kind of split the skin and

3762
02:26:32,309 --> 02:26:30,399
made a wound and actually collected the

3763
02:26:34,150 --> 02:26:32,319
blood in a pail that came out

3764
02:26:35,510 --> 02:26:34,160
that came out and then drank from from

3765
02:26:37,429 --> 02:26:35,520
the pale um

3766
02:26:38,550 --> 02:26:37,439
i think in um some other accounts

3767
02:26:40,469 --> 02:26:38,560
there's like a wound

3768
02:26:41,910 --> 02:26:40,479
around the heart they thought that the

3769
02:26:43,910 --> 02:26:41,920
vampire was attacking

3770
02:26:45,349 --> 02:26:43,920
was attacking through the through the

3771
02:26:47,590 --> 02:26:45,359
through you know sort of

3772
02:26:48,630 --> 02:26:47,600
through the chest um and i think a lot

3773
02:26:51,110 --> 02:26:48,640
of accounts

3774
02:26:52,469 --> 02:26:51,120
it actually isn't mentioned the you know

3775
02:26:54,309 --> 02:26:52,479
like in the peterborough

3776
02:26:55,830 --> 02:26:54,319
pagodas account they're they don't

3777
02:26:57,349 --> 02:26:55,840
mention wounds or anything like that but

3778
02:26:58,710 --> 02:26:57,359
they see the blood on the corpse and go

3779
02:27:00,389 --> 02:26:58,720
he's been drinking blood

3780
02:27:02,150 --> 02:27:00,399
so i think it was just a matter of you

3781
02:27:03,830 --> 02:27:02,160
know the vampire was somehow getting

3782
02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:03,840
blood people are getting sick that's how

3783
02:27:06,950 --> 02:27:05,680
their that's the mechanism from their

3784
02:27:09,510 --> 02:27:06,960
they're doing it and they didn't

3785
02:27:11,110 --> 02:27:09,520
necessarily need to explain it

3786
02:27:12,790 --> 02:27:11,120
especially sort of

3787
02:27:14,630 --> 02:27:12,800
when there was this kind of hysteria

3788
02:27:16,469 --> 02:27:14,640
going on now what about

3789
02:27:18,469 --> 02:27:16,479
and i've got one last quick question

3790
02:27:21,590 --> 02:27:18,479
probably the best one of the night

3791
02:27:24,710 --> 02:27:21,600
uh shape-shifting into a bat where

3792
02:27:27,990 --> 02:27:24,720
where where did that come from um

3793
02:27:29,590 --> 02:27:28,000
so um vampires were there are a number

3794
02:27:31,990 --> 02:27:29,600
of beliefs surrounding vampires turning

3795
02:27:34,870 --> 02:27:32,000
into animals uh turning into a bat

3796
02:27:36,230 --> 02:27:34,880
is virtually unheard of in folklore for

3797
02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:36,240
the longest while it was thought that

3798
02:27:40,230 --> 02:27:38,080
stoker had invented it

3799
02:27:42,150 --> 02:27:40,240
um in my rece in my research i found a

3800
02:27:42,630 --> 02:27:42,160
scholarly article that that identified

3801
02:27:46,150 --> 02:27:42,640
like

3802
02:27:46,870 --> 02:27:46,160
a couple literary um uh precursors and

3803
02:27:50,230 --> 02:27:46,880
like a

3804
02:27:52,790 --> 02:27:50,240
couple uh folkloric references

3805
02:27:54,389 --> 02:27:52,800
um but it's it's practically it's

3806
02:27:55,910 --> 02:27:54,399
practically non-existent vampires

3807
02:27:57,830 --> 02:27:55,920
turning into bats it was

3808
02:27:59,670 --> 02:27:57,840
um if not invented by stoker it was

3809
02:28:01,110 --> 02:27:59,680
certainly popularized by him

3810
02:28:03,349 --> 02:28:01,120
which i know is surprising because we

3811
02:28:05,030 --> 02:28:03,359
tend to associate bats with the night

3812
02:28:06,309 --> 02:28:05,040
and all that stuff but for some reason

3813
02:28:08,469 --> 02:28:06,319
it just wasn't

3814
02:28:09,990 --> 02:28:08,479
it was wasn't really a big part of

3815
02:28:11,990 --> 02:28:10,000
folklore folklore at all

3816
02:28:14,309 --> 02:28:12,000
practically not there now who are you

3817
02:28:16,710 --> 02:28:14,319
going to be for halloween

3818
02:28:18,230 --> 02:28:16,720
oh i don't know may i'll just be i'll

3819
02:28:21,510 --> 02:28:18,240
just be myself maybe i

3820
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:21,520
don't i don't know why is it i mean

3821
02:28:25,429 --> 02:28:24,640
uh that being a vampire on halloween

3822
02:28:28,550 --> 02:28:25,439
i've done it

3823
02:28:29,030 --> 02:28:28,560
so many times it's like the go-to right

3824
02:28:33,190 --> 02:28:29,040
it's

3825
02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:33,200
right you got vampire werewolf

3826
02:28:36,790 --> 02:28:34,960
like witch and mummy like maybe those

3827
02:28:37,349 --> 02:28:36,800
are like the those those are the big

3828
02:28:40,469 --> 02:28:37,359
ones

3829
02:28:41,830 --> 02:28:40,479
i i was a vampire as a as a child

3830
02:28:43,830 --> 02:28:41,840
i think i had like a little dracula

3831
02:28:44,870 --> 02:28:43,840
medallion in the plastic teeth and all

3832
02:28:47,590 --> 02:28:44,880
that stuff

3833
02:28:49,270 --> 02:28:47,600
um i you know i just think the vampire

3834
02:28:51,110 --> 02:28:49,280
it just sort of resonates with us

3835
02:28:53,590 --> 02:28:51,120
and it um i think it resonates with

3836
02:28:54,230 --> 02:28:53,600
people it changed the vampire has

3837
02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:54,240
changed

3838
02:28:58,469 --> 02:28:56,640
and and adapted over time through

3839
02:28:59,190 --> 02:28:58,479
different literary works and movies and

3840
02:29:01,670 --> 02:28:59,200
stuff like that

3841
02:29:03,270 --> 02:29:01,680
so it sort of evolves to sort of always

3842
02:29:05,429 --> 02:29:03,280
be relevant for us

3843
02:29:06,950 --> 02:29:05,439
and i think that's why it's still very

3844
02:29:08,630 --> 02:29:06,960
much sort of part of the culture

3845
02:29:10,950 --> 02:29:08,640
and that's why people still like

3846
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:10,960
dressing up as vampires even today

3847
02:29:14,389 --> 02:29:13,280
ap sylvia what a great conversation

3848
02:29:17,790 --> 02:29:14,399
tonight thank you for

3849
02:29:19,429 --> 02:29:17,800
everything of course your website is

3850
02:29:21,030 --> 02:29:19,439
locationsoflore.com the links are over

3851
02:29:24,469 --> 02:29:21,040
at jimmychurchradio.com

3852
02:29:27,270 --> 02:29:24,479
where can everybody go and get your book

3853
02:29:29,270 --> 02:29:27,280
you can find my book um on sort of all

3854
02:29:32,710 --> 02:29:29,280
the major online booksellers

3855
02:29:33,349 --> 02:29:32,720
amazon barnes and noble last time i

3856
02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:33,359
checked

3857
02:29:37,030 --> 02:29:35,200
some some different barnes and noble

3858
02:29:39,750 --> 02:29:37,040
locations uh

3859
02:29:41,030 --> 02:29:39,760
had my book in stock so you might want

3860
02:29:42,710 --> 02:29:41,040
to you could potentially

3861
02:29:44,950 --> 02:29:42,720
check to see if your if your local store

3862
02:29:47,030 --> 02:29:44,960
has it uh if you're if a you know

3863
02:29:49,510 --> 02:29:47,040
local independent bookstore you can ask

3864
02:29:51,510 --> 02:29:49,520
them to to get it in for you as well

3865
02:29:53,270 --> 02:29:51,520
um so it's it's it's out there and

3866
02:29:55,110 --> 02:29:53,280
there's a number of different ways to

3867
02:29:57,190 --> 02:29:55,120
to to grab it yeah thank you for the

3868
02:29:58,870 --> 02:29:57,200
conversation tonight and i look forward

3869
02:30:02,230 --> 02:29:58,880
to our next one

3870
02:30:03,670 --> 02:30:02,240
good job thank you so much ap sylvia

3871
02:30:06,710 --> 02:30:03,680
thank you so much and again

3872
02:30:10,030 --> 02:30:06,720
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3873
02:30:11,750 --> 02:30:10,040
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3874
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3875
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[Music]

3977
02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:44,720
welcome back fade to black i am your

3978
02:34:48,070 --> 02:34:46,240
host jimmy church

3979
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i want to thank ap sylvia what a great

3980
02:34:52,610 --> 02:34:49,359
conversation tonight

3981
02:34:54,309 --> 02:34:52,620
learned a lot vampires

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[Music]

3983
02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:07,600
and uh absolutely want to talk uh

3984
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uh vampires i mean uh

3985
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the thing is uh for me

3986
02:35:19,270 --> 02:35:17,600
uh you have uh all of the modern stuff

3987
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and of course i'm talking about anne

3988
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rice and

3989
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and and that but uh

3990
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we all grew up with vampires

3991
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i mean that's it we all grew up with

3992
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them got my earliest memories of

3993
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when i'm watching uh those those

3994
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excellent black and white movies uh back

3995
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in the late 60s for me i i

3996
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it was a creature features in chicago uh

3997
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on friday nights uh wgn channel nine

3998
02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:51,120
and it seemed like all of that stuff was

3999
02:35:55,270 --> 02:35:53,680
uh in heavy rotation all the time but

4000
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the original dracula

4001
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got me the original mummy got me the

4002
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original frankenstein got me

4003
02:36:06,469 --> 02:36:02,640
at a very early age but going back

4004
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uh uh back then when you're watching

4005
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you know bella lugosi i don't drink wine

4006
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right you're seeing that and then you've

4007
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got count chocolate cereal

4008
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you got the count on sesame street

4009
02:36:20,309 --> 02:36:19,680
i was walking around just like everybody

4010
02:36:23,830 --> 02:36:20,319
else

4011
02:36:27,190 --> 02:36:23,840
thinking that vampires were real i

4012
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always thought and especially

4013
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uh the count on sesame street he was the

4014
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coolest

4015
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character on sesame street he was the

4016
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coolest one

4017
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count chocolate the coolest cereal right

4018
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the coolest

4019
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dracula

4020
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in the movies i was okay with it i'm not

4021
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so sure and this is kind of what i want

4022
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to talk to all of i'm not so

4023
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sure that i was ever really scared

4024
02:37:00,070 --> 02:36:57,920
of vampires right you i i

4025
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didn't we always kind of hope we would

4026
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meet one

4027
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right it and i'm being serious too

4028
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in a weird way vampires

4029
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were cool and that that's the imagery

4030
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that we had so anyway fast forward to

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lost boys that was a great movie

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okay first off let's just stop right

4033
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there great movie

4034
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uh from start to finish but the way that

4035
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kiefer and his crew right guitars

4036
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living in the cave what was it santa

4037
02:37:37,750 --> 02:37:35,359
clara

4038
02:37:39,349 --> 02:37:37,760
what was what was the community santa

4039
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clara california

4040
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um they made it cool too

4041
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rode motorcycles remember the the the

4042
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scene on the bridge right floating in

4043
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the clouds

4044
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in the fog that was some flying

4045
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that was some crazy stuff and that that

4046
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that exemplified the imagery that all of

4047
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us grew up with

4048
02:38:05,750 --> 02:38:04,960
vampires were cool had the cool clothes

4049
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right

4050
02:38:12,870 --> 02:38:09,200
think about that vampires uh

4051
02:38:15,910 --> 02:38:12,880
are not scary not to me

4052
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at least now there's the whole other

4053
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side of it i get it i get it and if you

4054
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go

4055
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um when uh

4056
02:38:27,990 --> 02:38:25,920
how do i say this right whether you're

4057
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watching you know christopher lee

4058
02:38:35,110 --> 02:38:31,760
or bella lugosi or or tom cruise

4059
02:38:36,870 --> 02:38:35,120
or whatever um uh playing these vampires

4060
02:38:39,910 --> 02:38:36,880
kiefer sutherland

4061
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um you

4062
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wanted to be scared you know we're

4063
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talking about victims and the drinking

4064
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of blood but then there's the other part

4065
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of it

4066
02:38:54,790 --> 02:38:50,399
where there was some tense moments

4067
02:38:57,910 --> 02:38:54,800
but you were never really scared

4068
02:39:00,950 --> 02:38:57,920
was it always an element of cool seven

4069
02:39:02,790 --> 02:39:00,960
four seven two two eight two zero five

4070
02:39:05,830 --> 02:39:02,800
one the side burns

4071
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right the widow's peak everybody wants a

4072
02:39:10,230 --> 02:39:06,880
set of fangs

4073
02:39:13,270 --> 02:39:10,240
right live forever um

4074
02:39:15,270 --> 02:39:13,280
what was uh i remember in a interview

4075
02:39:19,030 --> 02:39:15,280
with a vampire

4076
02:39:22,550 --> 02:39:19,040
the uh the baby vampire

4077
02:39:24,550 --> 02:39:22,560
the baby vampire trapped you know being

4078
02:39:25,750 --> 02:39:24,560
what how old was he eight years old or

4079
02:39:28,790 --> 02:39:25,760
something you know for

4080
02:39:32,309 --> 02:39:28,800
for eternity that was a little tragic

4081
02:39:35,670 --> 02:39:32,319
it was it was a little harsh but yeah

4082
02:39:38,070 --> 02:39:35,680
yeah simon templer james bond of

4083
02:39:39,830 --> 02:39:38,080
yeah they were i agree they are like the

4084
02:39:41,110 --> 02:39:39,840
simon doppler james bond of the

4085
02:39:44,630 --> 02:39:41,120
underworld

4086
02:39:45,910 --> 02:39:44,640
uh was it bob wilkins that did creature

4087
02:39:49,750 --> 02:39:45,920
features was that right

4088
02:39:52,150 --> 02:39:49,760
in chicago and i need to uh i need to go

4089
02:39:54,070 --> 02:39:52,160
back and think about that yeah i think

4090
02:39:58,349 --> 02:39:54,080
everybody's going to agree

4091
02:40:01,510 --> 02:40:00,309
747-228-2051 let's go to the phones hi

4092
02:40:04,830 --> 02:40:01,520
you're live on fade to black who's

4093
02:40:10,870 --> 02:40:08,630
oh i take a weekend off

4094
02:40:12,230 --> 02:40:10,880
and i forget how to operate my own

4095
02:40:14,550 --> 02:40:12,240
switchboard

4096
02:40:15,750 --> 02:40:14,560
uh so funny i do it every single time hi

4097
02:40:17,269 --> 02:40:15,760
you're live i'm fade to black who's

4098
02:40:20,550 --> 02:40:17,279
calling

4099
02:40:23,349 --> 02:40:20,560
hey jimmy it's deb hi deb how are you

4100
02:40:27,190 --> 02:40:23,359
hi oh you know i'm thinking about being

4101
02:40:31,190 --> 02:40:27,200
a vampire i think he recruited me

4102
02:40:33,110 --> 02:40:31,200
just one caveat well and what's that

4103
02:40:35,349 --> 02:40:33,120
i can't give up regular food it's just

4104
02:40:37,030 --> 02:40:35,359
too darn good but the thought of being

4105
02:40:38,550 --> 02:40:37,040
immortal and being able to fly in

4106
02:40:40,550 --> 02:40:38,560
superhuman strength and

4107
02:40:41,750 --> 02:40:40,560
if you watch the twilight series appear

4108
02:40:43,510 --> 02:40:41,760
in true blood

4109
02:40:46,309 --> 02:40:43,520
you know they're beautiful they're

4110
02:40:47,990 --> 02:40:46,319
immortal hey i'm a night owl anyway i

4111
02:40:51,030 --> 02:40:48,000
sleep during the days

4112
02:40:53,750 --> 02:40:51,040
you know apparently vampire sex is great

4113
02:40:54,070 --> 02:40:53,760
but i can't give up the food yeah i know

4114
02:41:01,349 --> 02:40:54,080
i

4115
02:41:04,070 --> 02:41:01,359
second

4116
02:41:04,469 --> 02:41:04,080
right so so wait well let's you know

4117
02:41:07,429 --> 02:41:04,479
what

4118
02:41:07,910 --> 02:41:07,439
the the pluses right the plus side

4119
02:41:12,309 --> 02:41:07,920
you're

4120
02:41:14,389 --> 02:41:12,319
creature

4121
02:41:16,550 --> 02:41:14,399
right it's certainly true blood you know

4122
02:41:19,910 --> 02:41:16,560
took that to a whole nother level

4123
02:41:21,429 --> 02:41:19,920
um what was suki stackhouse's brother's

4124
02:41:24,630 --> 02:41:21,439
name

4125
02:41:27,510 --> 02:41:24,640
god i can't remember

4126
02:41:28,070 --> 02:41:27,520
um i want to say i want to say evan or

4127
02:41:32,790 --> 02:41:28,080
eric

4128
02:41:36,710 --> 02:41:32,800
know

4129
02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:36,720
was with the posted eric

4130
02:41:43,910 --> 02:41:42,469
come on whoever pushed true blood fade

4131
02:41:44,630 --> 02:41:43,920
or not throw it in there because they

4132
02:41:49,349 --> 02:41:44,640
put it on

4133
02:41:51,190 --> 02:41:49,359
the sandbox but but so so the plus side

4134
02:41:52,550 --> 02:41:51,200
again you know you get to stay up all

4135
02:41:55,990 --> 02:41:52,560
night and you sleep all day

4136
02:42:00,070 --> 02:41:56,000
that's all cool right but

4137
02:42:01,190 --> 02:42:00,080
is food an issue do do you remember a

4138
02:42:04,950 --> 02:42:01,200
vampire

4139
02:42:05,830 --> 02:42:04,960
eating food it seems like they used to

4140
02:42:09,030 --> 02:42:05,840
have

4141
02:42:11,750 --> 02:42:09,040
tables set up for a feast

4142
02:42:12,710 --> 02:42:11,760
but that was for their victims i guess

4143
02:42:19,110 --> 02:42:12,720
right

4144
02:42:21,110 --> 02:42:19,120
in the vampire series that i've watched

4145
02:42:24,070 --> 02:42:21,120
i can't recall

4146
02:42:24,830 --> 02:42:24,080
ever seeing the vampire eat regular food

4147
02:42:28,790 --> 02:42:24,840
oh

4148
02:42:31,429 --> 02:42:28,800
jason jason jason stackhouse

4149
02:42:33,510 --> 02:42:31,439
there you go the doofus vampire with

4150
02:42:36,550 --> 02:42:33,520
great abs

4151
02:42:43,429 --> 02:42:36,560
they

4152
02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:43,439
yeah that would kind of negate

4153
02:42:47,750 --> 02:42:46,000
some of the appeal of being a vampire

4154
02:42:50,710 --> 02:42:47,760
right if you can't live

4155
02:42:51,830 --> 02:42:50,720
you know be immortal eating whatever you

4156
02:42:54,870 --> 02:42:51,840
want

4157
02:42:56,230 --> 02:42:54,880
right mm-hmm yeah but then you look at

4158
02:42:57,429 --> 02:42:56,240
the other side of it i don't know if

4159
02:42:59,830 --> 02:42:57,439
you've ever seen the twilight

4160
02:43:01,670 --> 02:42:59,840
series but you know apparently if you

4161
02:43:03,190 --> 02:43:01,680
know the sex is that great

4162
02:43:04,790 --> 02:43:03,200
and they can fly and they have

4163
02:43:06,630 --> 02:43:04,800
superhuman powers

4164
02:43:08,469 --> 02:43:06,640
and the energy that surges through them

4165
02:43:10,870 --> 02:43:08,479
is just like the super

4166
02:43:12,630 --> 02:43:10,880
euphoria maybe they wouldn't even be

4167
02:43:14,230 --> 02:43:12,640
thinking about food until they get

4168
02:43:16,230 --> 02:43:14,240
hungry and need blood

4169
02:43:18,070 --> 02:43:16,240
yeah maybe it's not even something that

4170
02:43:20,630 --> 02:43:18,080
appeals to them i don't know

4171
02:43:22,309 --> 02:43:20,640
yeah but as a human i can't relate as a

4172
02:43:23,590 --> 02:43:22,319
human obviously but

4173
02:43:26,710 --> 02:43:23,600
when you paint out that scenario i'm

4174
02:43:28,790 --> 02:43:26,720
thinking oh you know start craving pizza

4175
02:43:30,309 --> 02:43:28,800
and in and out burger yeah that's that's

4176
02:43:32,550 --> 02:43:30,319
true that's true

4177
02:43:33,590 --> 02:43:32,560
and here's the downside of the twilight

4178
02:43:36,150 --> 02:43:33,600
series

4179
02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:36,160
i don't think any men have seen the

4180
02:43:41,510 --> 02:43:37,439
films

4181
02:43:48,550 --> 02:43:45,110
probably no but not probably

4182
02:43:52,469 --> 02:43:48,560
i haven't i mean okay

4183
02:43:54,150 --> 02:43:52,479
any any male fader knots out there

4184
02:43:55,910 --> 02:43:54,160
want to admit to seeing the twilight

4185
02:43:56,870 --> 02:43:55,920
series of films i want to see your post

4186
02:43:59,590 --> 02:43:56,880
right now in

4187
02:44:00,870 --> 02:43:59,600
f2b and and let me know how great the

4188
02:44:04,309 --> 02:44:00,880
films are i

4189
02:44:06,469 --> 02:44:04,319
i i have i have no idea

4190
02:44:07,590 --> 02:44:06,479
but what about since we're on the

4191
02:44:11,670 --> 02:44:07,600
subject

4192
02:44:13,590 --> 02:44:11,680
underworld underworld amazing

4193
02:44:15,990 --> 02:44:13,600
never saw it see because that's a that's

4194
02:44:17,910 --> 02:44:16,000
a male thing

4195
02:44:19,190 --> 02:44:17,920
no i'm just kidding i'm just well it's

4196
02:44:22,070 --> 02:44:19,200
kate beckinsale

4197
02:44:22,469 --> 02:44:22,080
so isn't she in that yeah she's in that

4198
02:44:25,670 --> 02:44:22,479
but

4199
02:44:29,030 --> 02:44:25,680
um uh so many

4200
02:44:32,150 --> 02:44:29,040
bill nye he's he's the actual

4201
02:44:34,550 --> 02:44:32,160
uh i would say he's the co-star so

4202
02:44:35,830 --> 02:44:34,560
kate's there bill nye he's the leader

4203
02:44:39,349 --> 02:44:35,840
you know he's like

4204
02:44:42,469 --> 02:44:39,359
king dracula um but yeah what about

4205
02:44:44,150 --> 02:44:42,479
uh the i'm not sure how old you are did

4206
02:44:47,190 --> 02:44:44,160
you watch the original

4207
02:44:48,950 --> 02:44:47,200
uh dark shadows in the 70s

4208
02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:48,960
it was on when i was a little girl and

4209
02:44:52,469 --> 02:44:50,479
my mom would watch it in the afternoon

4210
02:44:53,830 --> 02:44:52,479
so i vaguely vaguely remember it but i

4211
02:44:55,510 --> 02:44:53,840
didn't really watch it now

4212
02:44:58,070 --> 02:44:55,520
i was probably five years old when that

4213
02:44:58,790 --> 02:44:58,080
was on yeah and i re this is what i

4214
02:45:01,030 --> 02:44:58,800
remember

4215
02:45:02,469 --> 02:45:01,040
um and i'm not making this up either i

4216
02:45:04,550 --> 02:45:02,479
remember barnabas

4217
02:45:05,990 --> 02:45:04,560
yeah we have barnabas that was another

4218
02:45:08,150 --> 02:45:06,000
forgot about barnabas

4219
02:45:09,910 --> 02:45:08,160
okay but i remember i'd be playing

4220
02:45:11,990 --> 02:45:09,920
outside right come in the house

4221
02:45:13,990 --> 02:45:12,000
my mom and her friends are watching dark

4222
02:45:17,269 --> 02:45:14,000
shadows and they wouldn't let us

4223
02:45:18,150 --> 02:45:17,279
watch it it was like oh dark shadows is

4224
02:45:20,230 --> 02:45:18,160
on

4225
02:45:22,150 --> 02:45:20,240
we can't we can't we can't even look at

4226
02:45:25,030 --> 02:45:22,160
the tv right now

4227
02:45:25,750 --> 02:45:25,040
and i i have no idea i have no idea i

4228
02:45:29,910 --> 02:45:25,760
was never

4229
02:45:31,670 --> 02:45:29,920
able to watch it streaming i'm wondering

4230
02:45:33,750 --> 02:45:31,680
if it is

4231
02:45:36,630 --> 02:45:33,760
well the thing is you know soap operas

4232
02:45:38,790 --> 02:45:36,640
even back then had that adult component

4233
02:45:41,030 --> 02:45:38,800
of adult relationships if you don't want

4234
02:45:42,550 --> 02:45:41,040
your children exposed to that

4235
02:45:44,230 --> 02:45:42,560
you know then you don't let them watch

4236
02:45:45,750 --> 02:45:44,240
soap operas i mean my mom used to watch

4237
02:45:47,269 --> 02:45:45,760
general hospital and i wasn't allowed to

4238
02:45:49,750 --> 02:45:47,279
watch it for years

4239
02:45:51,830 --> 02:45:49,760
until i was a young teenager because she

4240
02:45:54,550 --> 02:45:51,840
didn't want me to be corrupted

4241
02:45:56,070 --> 02:45:54,560
you know people are constantly you know

4242
02:45:58,230 --> 02:45:56,080
doing things they shouldn't do

4243
02:45:59,590 --> 02:45:58,240
on a morality basis so it depends on how

4244
02:46:00,870 --> 02:45:59,600
your parenting went

4245
02:46:02,950 --> 02:46:00,880
so it sounds like your mom was

4246
02:46:06,309 --> 02:46:02,960
protecting you from dark shadows

4247
02:46:07,590 --> 02:46:06,319
ah i think she was just putting up some

4248
02:46:10,710 --> 02:46:07,600
boundaries

4249
02:46:16,070 --> 02:46:10,720
there was there was a lot of um

4250
02:46:20,469 --> 02:46:16,080
i i remember now look we're going to

4251
02:46:23,349 --> 02:46:20,479
uh it had to have been like 1969 68 69

4252
02:46:24,790 --> 02:46:23,359
70 right in that period which would have

4253
02:46:29,030 --> 02:46:24,800
made me five six seven

4254
02:46:31,850 --> 02:46:29,040
eight years old and i i do remember

4255
02:46:33,030 --> 02:46:31,860
uh the the

4256
02:46:36,070 --> 02:46:33,040
[Music]

4257
02:46:40,150 --> 02:46:36,080
social talk about dark shadows

4258
02:46:43,269 --> 02:46:40,160
that it was daytime tv and it was

4259
02:46:46,150 --> 02:46:43,279
uh a horror soap opera that was

4260
02:46:46,469 --> 02:46:46,160
that was pretty dark and i i remember

4261
02:46:50,150 --> 02:46:46,479
the

4262
02:46:52,070 --> 02:46:50,160
of uh

4263
02:46:54,309 --> 02:46:52,080
negativity that was surrounding dark

4264
02:46:55,429 --> 02:46:54,319
shadows now again i haven't seen it as

4265
02:46:59,110 --> 02:46:55,439
an adult

4266
02:46:59,750 --> 02:46:59,120
so i really can't comment about how far

4267
02:47:02,309 --> 02:46:59,760
it went

4268
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:02,319
because i i don't know i i just i've

4269
02:47:08,550 --> 02:47:05,200
seen clips of it over the years but

4270
02:47:10,710 --> 02:47:08,560
uh i don't even know if it's streaming

4271
02:47:12,150 --> 02:47:10,720
oh yeah i don't know can we can we talk

4272
02:47:15,910 --> 02:47:12,160
about the queen mary for a second

4273
02:47:17,190 --> 02:47:15,920
sure okay so i already got my ticket

4274
02:47:17,670 --> 02:47:17,200
i've talked to other favorite nights

4275
02:47:21,110 --> 02:47:17,680
that are gonna

4276
02:47:23,349 --> 02:47:21,120
their tickets and while we're watching

4277
02:47:24,790 --> 02:47:23,359
you ghost hunt will there be a live chat

4278
02:47:25,990 --> 02:47:24,800
streaming where we can talk to each

4279
02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:26,000
other during the ghost time

4280
02:47:29,429 --> 02:47:28,240
i don't you know i don't know i would

4281
02:47:31,510 --> 02:47:29,439
assume

4282
02:47:33,670 --> 02:47:31,520
what's the website say i didn't look

4283
02:47:35,349 --> 02:47:33,680
i've been all over the website i didn't

4284
02:47:38,550 --> 02:47:35,359
look for that

4285
02:47:39,990 --> 02:47:38,560
been back online and i

4286
02:47:41,590 --> 02:47:40,000
i signed up last week so i haven't

4287
02:47:42,870 --> 02:47:41,600
checked that out but paranormal girl and

4288
02:47:44,309 --> 02:47:42,880
i were talking about it

4289
02:47:46,150 --> 02:47:44,319
and i said if they have that that would

4290
02:47:47,830 --> 02:47:46,160
be cool because or not can all

4291
02:47:49,510 --> 02:47:47,840
you know engage together and watch you

4292
02:47:51,510 --> 02:47:49,520
at the same time

4293
02:47:53,349 --> 02:47:51,520
okay now it says right here that would

4294
02:47:57,190 --> 02:47:53,359
be cool it says right here

4295
02:48:00,230 --> 02:47:57,200
on the home page in all caps

4296
02:48:02,950 --> 02:48:00,240
live chat nice

4297
02:48:04,630 --> 02:48:02,960
it's right there how'd you miss that i

4298
02:48:06,550 --> 02:48:04,640
told you i wasn't looking for it when i

4299
02:48:06,950 --> 02:48:06,560
signed up i was just kind of signing up

4300
02:48:08,630 --> 02:48:06,960
and i

4301
02:48:10,230 --> 02:48:08,640
wasn't really i watched the trailer and

4302
02:48:11,750 --> 02:48:10,240
i'm like cool and then i walked off

4303
02:48:13,590 --> 02:48:11,760
because i wanted to get onto other stuff

4304
02:48:15,990 --> 02:48:13,600
well it says right here paying attention

4305
02:48:19,190 --> 02:48:16,000
it says right here for 1999 you will

4306
02:48:21,590 --> 02:48:19,200
get live chat it's the top thing on the

4307
02:48:25,190 --> 02:48:21,600
list deb

4308
02:48:25,670 --> 02:48:25,200
okay looking for it i know you are you

4309
02:48:27,990 --> 02:48:25,680
brat

4310
02:48:28,950 --> 02:48:28,000
i'm making it up i think you should get

4311
02:48:31,190 --> 02:48:28,960
your teeth out

4312
02:48:32,870 --> 02:48:31,200
do you have your halloween teeth i'm i'm

4313
02:48:33,990 --> 02:48:32,880
making it all up but this is what it

4314
02:48:35,790 --> 02:48:34,000
says here it says

4315
02:48:38,309 --> 02:48:35,800
you're such a brat it says right here

4316
02:48:39,510 --> 02:48:38,319
unprecedented virtual access to the

4317
02:48:42,070 --> 02:48:39,520
entire ship

4318
02:48:44,150 --> 02:48:42,080
24-hour surveillance of the most haunted

4319
02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:44,160
rooms interaction with your favorite

4320
02:48:46,710 --> 02:48:45,359
seat right there

4321
02:48:48,630 --> 02:48:46,720
interaction with your favorite

4322
02:48:49,830 --> 02:48:48,640
paranormal investigators musical

4323
02:48:52,309 --> 02:48:49,840
performances

4324
02:48:54,469 --> 02:48:52,319
very special celebrity guest appearances

4325
02:48:55,910 --> 02:48:54,479
virtual halloween costume contest and

4326
02:48:59,590 --> 02:48:55,920
prize giveaways

4327
02:49:03,110 --> 02:48:59,600
day of the dead celebration um

4328
02:49:05,030 --> 02:49:03,120
and live chat all right

4329
02:49:06,150 --> 02:49:05,040
that's awesome yeah that's gonna be

4330
02:49:08,950 --> 02:49:06,160
pretty cool i'm

4331
02:49:10,870 --> 02:49:08,960
really looking forward to this have you

4332
02:49:13,750 --> 02:49:10,880
ever been on the queen mary yes i have

4333
02:49:16,070 --> 02:49:13,760
i've been down there a few times

4334
02:49:17,670 --> 02:49:16,080
recently or like years and years ago oh

4335
02:49:20,710 --> 02:49:17,680
the last time

4336
02:49:22,870 --> 02:49:20,720
i was at uh on the queen mary

4337
02:49:24,830 --> 02:49:22,880
oh that was on mcqueen mary taking a

4338
02:49:27,280 --> 02:49:24,840
tour on the queen mary

4339
02:49:30,790 --> 02:49:27,290
probably

4340
02:49:33,910 --> 02:49:33,429
in the 90s but i've been i've been down

4341
02:49:36,950 --> 02:49:33,920
there

4342
02:49:40,389 --> 02:49:36,960
next to it uh uh

4343
02:49:43,910 --> 02:49:40,399
man i think i i walked up

4344
02:49:48,150 --> 02:49:43,920
it was closed um

4345
02:49:53,429 --> 02:49:48,160
and this would have been around 2010

4346
02:49:56,790 --> 02:49:53,439
and uh yeah 2010 maybe 2011 2010

4347
02:49:58,070 --> 02:49:56,800
right in there 2009 um i went down there

4348
02:50:00,870 --> 02:49:58,080
and they were doing

4349
02:50:01,830 --> 02:50:00,880
repairs on it and getting ready to

4350
02:50:04,950 --> 02:50:01,840
reopen

4351
02:50:05,349 --> 02:50:04,960
and i was down there and i walked up and

4352
02:50:12,710 --> 02:50:05,359
they

4353
02:50:14,230 --> 02:50:12,720
uh into a door that's what i remember

4354
02:50:15,990 --> 02:50:14,240
there was a door on the side of the ship

4355
02:50:19,429 --> 02:50:16,000
and there was a gangway and we

4356
02:50:21,670 --> 02:50:19,439
walked i was able to go into the door um

4357
02:50:23,510 --> 02:50:21,680
but that that was the last time probably

4358
02:50:24,870 --> 02:50:23,520
2010.

4359
02:50:26,950 --> 02:50:24,880
yeah can i tell you about my tour there

4360
02:50:28,790 --> 02:50:26,960
in 1987. sure what happened

4361
02:50:30,389 --> 02:50:28,800
actually it was 1987 we were down san

4362
02:50:32,070 --> 02:50:30,399
diego visiting my mom's friends because

4363
02:50:33,830 --> 02:50:32,080
they went to nursing school together

4364
02:50:35,190 --> 02:50:33,840
and her and her husband took us on you

4365
02:50:36,630 --> 02:50:35,200
know the queen mary they took us all

4366
02:50:37,750 --> 02:50:36,640
over long beach but they wanted to go

4367
02:50:39,750 --> 02:50:37,760
there and back then

4368
02:50:41,030 --> 02:50:39,760
it wasn't promoted as a ghost tour so we

4369
02:50:42,870 --> 02:50:41,040
had lunch there and it was cool and then

4370
02:50:44,150 --> 02:50:42,880
we did the regular tour

4371
02:50:45,990 --> 02:50:44,160
and so i walked through there not

4372
02:50:48,230 --> 02:50:46,000
expecting anything creepy

4373
02:50:49,429 --> 02:50:48,240
we got down to and this is what i recall

4374
02:50:52,150 --> 02:50:49,439
i could be wrong

4375
02:50:54,309 --> 02:50:52,160
the bottom luigi's thing the other night

4376
02:50:55,830 --> 02:50:54,319
was freaking out the bottom of the ship

4377
02:50:58,070 --> 02:50:55,840
is where the pool was

4378
02:50:59,190 --> 02:50:58,080
okay and we went down to the bottom of

4379
02:51:00,630 --> 02:50:59,200
the ship

4380
02:51:02,070 --> 02:51:00,640
and then there was like a big bar down

4381
02:51:03,750 --> 02:51:02,080
there where you could order a soda and

4382
02:51:03,990 --> 02:51:03,760
sit and whatever and the pool was just

4383
02:51:05,510 --> 02:51:04,000
off

4384
02:51:07,190 --> 02:51:05,520
in the distance as i'm sitting at the

4385
02:51:09,429 --> 02:51:07,200
table my friends

4386
02:51:11,030 --> 02:51:09,439
i look across and i see a guy and the

4387
02:51:12,790 --> 02:51:11,040
pool's empty it's all drained

4388
02:51:14,710 --> 02:51:12,800
there's a guy in brown coveralls and

4389
02:51:16,150 --> 02:51:14,720
he's an old old man and he's over there

4390
02:51:18,230 --> 02:51:16,160
and he's got this long pole it looks

4391
02:51:19,670 --> 02:51:18,240
like he's cleaning the sides of the pool

4392
02:51:21,990 --> 02:51:19,680
and i get up to get something i come

4393
02:51:23,990 --> 02:51:22,000
back i look over and he's completely

4394
02:51:25,750 --> 02:51:24,000
he's gone and i go did you guys see that

4395
02:51:27,349 --> 02:51:25,760
guy standing over there

4396
02:51:29,269 --> 02:51:27,359
and they didn't know what i was talking

4397
02:51:30,870 --> 02:51:29,279
about and i go and i get close i mean it

4398
02:51:32,630 --> 02:51:30,880
was like two seconds

4399
02:51:34,230 --> 02:51:32,640
i turned around they didn't know what i

4400
02:51:35,670 --> 02:51:34,240
was talking about and he was gone so i

4401
02:51:37,030 --> 02:51:35,680
asked the tour guide

4402
02:51:39,030 --> 02:51:37,040
i said is there someone that you guys

4403
02:51:41,190 --> 02:51:39,040
keep down here to clean the pool area

4404
02:51:42,870 --> 02:51:41,200
and she goes no there's nobody down here

4405
02:51:44,309 --> 02:51:42,880
we don't keep those kind of people

4406
02:51:47,269 --> 02:51:44,319
around here

4407
02:51:49,110 --> 02:51:47,279
and it just freaked me i was like oh my

4408
02:51:53,030 --> 02:51:49,120
god what did i just see

4409
02:51:54,870 --> 02:51:53,040
and so i swear to god jenny so

4410
02:51:56,230 --> 02:51:54,880
and it so the weedy thing the other

4411
02:51:57,190 --> 02:51:56,240
night and her talking about the bottom

4412
02:51:59,269 --> 02:51:57,200
of the ship

4413
02:52:01,030 --> 02:51:59,279
triggered that memory i haven't thought

4414
02:52:01,750 --> 02:52:01,040
about it i've never thought about it

4415
02:52:03,429 --> 02:52:01,760
again

4416
02:52:05,269 --> 02:52:03,439
it was that one experience and i was

4417
02:52:06,630 --> 02:52:05,279
like holy crap and they're like oh

4418
02:52:08,309 --> 02:52:06,640
you're just seeing things well no i'm

4419
02:52:11,590 --> 02:52:08,319
not you know i know what i saw

4420
02:52:13,670 --> 02:52:11,600
and so i started thinking about that

4421
02:52:14,070 --> 02:52:13,680
again my memory was vivid and i was just

4422
02:52:16,150 --> 02:52:14,080
like

4423
02:52:17,190 --> 02:52:16,160
god you know so when they talked in your

4424
02:52:19,670 --> 02:52:17,200
ouija

4425
02:52:21,750 --> 02:52:19,680
um reading about the three of us have

4426
02:52:23,750 --> 02:52:21,760
been on the ship and something about

4427
02:52:25,429 --> 02:52:23,760
at the bottom i'm thinking they mean the

4428
02:52:28,950 --> 02:52:25,439
bottom of the ship the bottom

4429
02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:28,960
where that pool area is and that's where

4430
02:52:32,150 --> 02:52:30,160
the spirits were

4431
02:52:33,429 --> 02:52:32,160
at least what i saw and so when they

4432
02:52:34,950 --> 02:52:33,439
were doing that reading and you were

4433
02:52:36,790 --> 02:52:34,960
saying no the period goes after

4434
02:52:38,150 --> 02:52:36,800
i'm like yes it goes after bottom

4435
02:52:39,910 --> 02:52:38,160
they're talking about the bottom of the

4436
02:52:42,550 --> 02:52:39,920
ship

4437
02:52:45,670 --> 02:52:42,560
well that's that's a great ghost story i

4438
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:45,680
mean that's a real ghost story

4439
02:52:48,950 --> 02:52:48,399
i mean that's crazy you know they they i

4440
02:52:52,150 --> 02:52:48,960
know

4441
02:52:55,830 --> 02:52:52,160
what what really freaked me out about

4442
02:52:57,110 --> 02:52:55,840
the queen mary now i've uh i've done a

4443
02:52:58,710 --> 02:52:57,120
couple of different things with the

4444
02:53:01,830 --> 02:52:58,720
queen mary over the years

4445
02:53:03,429 --> 02:53:01,840
um and and going back to my first time

4446
02:53:05,870 --> 02:53:03,439
down there

4447
02:53:07,670 --> 02:53:05,880
was probably right before you about

4448
02:53:11,269 --> 02:53:07,680
1985.

4449
02:53:14,389 --> 02:53:11,279
what went down there um but i've uh

4450
02:53:15,349 --> 02:53:14,399
taken a a private boat that i was

4451
02:53:17,830 --> 02:53:15,359
actually

4452
02:53:18,630 --> 02:53:17,840
driving steering whatever you want to

4453
02:53:21,269 --> 02:53:18,640
call it

4454
02:53:23,510 --> 02:53:21,279
um around the queen mary got a really

4455
02:53:26,150 --> 02:53:23,520
good look at it went right up next to it

4456
02:53:26,710 --> 02:53:26,160
but when you're there at the dock and

4457
02:53:30,150 --> 02:53:26,720
you

4458
02:53:32,309 --> 02:53:30,160
the boat

4459
02:53:34,389 --> 02:53:32,319
forward or aft it doesn't matter and you

4460
02:53:37,190 --> 02:53:34,399
look down the side of it

4461
02:53:38,389 --> 02:53:37,200
it's got this you don't appreciate the

4462
02:53:40,710 --> 02:53:38,399
size of it

4463
02:53:41,910 --> 02:53:40,720
until you are down there and you look up

4464
02:53:44,230 --> 02:53:41,920
and you see it

4465
02:53:45,750 --> 02:53:44,240
and you look down the side and it's got

4466
02:53:48,790 --> 02:53:45,760
a very

4467
02:53:52,710 --> 02:53:48,800
what's the word i want to use lonely

4468
02:53:55,030 --> 02:53:52,720
right it's got this this aura about it

4469
02:53:55,750 --> 02:53:55,040
and it's it's floating it's there and

4470
02:53:57,990 --> 02:53:55,760
you're thinking

4471
02:53:59,110 --> 02:53:58,000
how can this thing float it's it's

4472
02:54:00,950 --> 02:53:59,120
massive

4473
02:54:03,190 --> 02:54:00,960
but you look down the side and it's

4474
02:54:03,750 --> 02:54:03,200
black and you look down the side and

4475
02:54:09,910 --> 02:54:03,760
it's got

4476
02:54:11,990 --> 02:54:09,920
you know and things and it looks old i

4477
02:54:14,870 --> 02:54:12,000
don't know how to explain it anyway

4478
02:54:16,950 --> 02:54:14,880
it's silent and it's sitting there and

4479
02:54:18,830 --> 02:54:16,960
it's floating next to the dock and it's

4480
02:54:22,630 --> 02:54:18,840
got this very

4481
02:54:26,070 --> 02:54:22,640
lonely thing to it

4482
02:54:28,550 --> 02:54:26,080
yeah it makes noises uh

4483
02:54:30,630 --> 02:54:28,560
there's water being pumped out of it you

4484
02:54:33,990 --> 02:54:30,640
know so that's going on

4485
02:54:36,389 --> 02:54:34,000
and it's uh it's it's it's pretty it's

4486
02:54:37,269 --> 02:54:36,399
pretty eerie so yeah i'm totally looking

4487
02:54:40,309 --> 02:54:37,279
forward to it

4488
02:54:42,790 --> 02:54:40,319
there's something ghostly

4489
02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:42,800
i guess that's that's that's the right

4490
02:54:45,590 --> 02:54:43,840
way to put it so

4491
02:54:47,750 --> 02:54:45,600
well i totally believe that thing is

4492
02:54:49,510 --> 02:54:47,760
haunted after what i saw and like i said

4493
02:54:51,429 --> 02:54:49,520
back then it wasn't being touted

4494
02:54:54,309 --> 02:54:51,439
as a haunted tour it was just a regular

4495
02:54:56,389 --> 02:54:54,319
tour so i never expected to see anything

4496
02:54:58,150 --> 02:54:56,399
and i i just god you know i remember

4497
02:55:02,469 --> 02:54:58,160
going back up the ship

4498
02:55:05,590 --> 02:55:02,479
on the way back and i was just shaking

4499
02:55:08,710 --> 02:55:05,600
okay well i wonder if and i will

4500
02:55:09,510 --> 02:55:08,720
check with uh the folks over the dark

4501
02:55:11,269 --> 02:55:09,520
zone

4502
02:55:13,110 --> 02:55:11,279
i'm wondering if i can go down to the

4503
02:55:15,750 --> 02:55:13,120
pool

4504
02:55:16,710 --> 02:55:15,760
if it's still there why wouldn't the

4505
02:55:18,309 --> 02:55:16,720
world still be

4506
02:55:19,990 --> 02:55:18,319
well i would think it i would think it

4507
02:55:23,030 --> 02:55:20,000
would still be there

4508
02:55:24,550 --> 02:55:23,040
but you know that was back in 1986 87 i

4509
02:55:25,910 --> 02:55:24,560
don't know if they've done anything to

4510
02:55:29,750 --> 02:55:25,920
refurbish that ship

4511
02:55:33,190 --> 02:55:29,760
i don't know ah well gonna find out

4512
02:55:36,550 --> 02:55:33,200
i'm gonna find out and i will ask

4513
02:55:39,750 --> 02:55:36,560
well see aidan and becca they are

4514
02:55:42,950 --> 02:55:39,760
uh they they do

4515
02:55:45,349 --> 02:55:42,960
um uh they do uh

4516
02:55:46,230 --> 02:55:45,359
what's the word i'm looking for they do

4517
02:55:51,269 --> 02:55:46,240
uh

4518
02:55:53,110 --> 02:55:51,279
seances on the boat

4519
02:55:55,030 --> 02:55:53,120
okay and they have a room it's like a

4520
02:55:56,870 --> 02:55:55,040
broadway it's a theatrical it's a

4521
02:55:58,150 --> 02:55:56,880
presentation dinner theater that's what

4522
02:56:00,790 --> 02:55:58,160
they do um

4523
02:56:02,309 --> 02:56:00,800
so they know everything about the ship

4524
02:56:03,429 --> 02:56:02,319
and the ghosts and the most haunted

4525
02:56:05,750 --> 02:56:03,439
rooms and stuff

4526
02:56:06,550 --> 02:56:05,760
so i'm going to ask him about the pool

4527
02:56:10,630 --> 02:56:06,560
and if

4528
02:56:13,670 --> 02:56:10,640
if anybody else has seen a pool cleaner

4529
02:56:15,990 --> 02:56:13,680
that's that's very very interesting so

4530
02:56:18,790 --> 02:56:16,000
i'll see if i can make my way down there

4531
02:56:20,469 --> 02:56:18,800
yeah hey speaking you're making your way

4532
02:56:21,510 --> 02:56:20,479
over to places did you make your way

4533
02:56:24,230 --> 02:56:21,520
over to that

4534
02:56:24,950 --> 02:56:24,240
destination that you emailed me for your

4535
02:56:28,469 --> 02:56:24,960
package

4536
02:56:31,190 --> 02:56:28,479
uh i got it oh okay

4537
02:56:32,389 --> 02:56:31,200
yeah i got it i'll reveal it tomorrow i

4538
02:56:35,910 --> 02:56:32,399
got a whole

4539
02:56:37,830 --> 02:56:35,920
go through but i'll do it

4540
02:56:39,830 --> 02:56:37,840
i'll wait i don't want to spoil it i'll

4541
02:56:42,550 --> 02:56:39,840
wait to reveal because i have a request

4542
02:56:45,030 --> 02:56:42,560
about um what to do with the remains and

4543
02:56:47,269 --> 02:56:45,040
that's all i'll say

4544
02:56:49,910 --> 02:56:47,279
what did you what did you send me a dead

4545
02:56:53,030 --> 02:56:51,910
no of course not what do you mean the

4546
02:56:56,230 --> 02:56:53,040
remains

4547
02:56:57,590 --> 02:56:56,240
okay and i'll give it away okay

4548
02:56:59,349 --> 02:56:57,600
all right all right now you've got let

4549
02:57:01,990 --> 02:56:59,359
me tell you no no

4550
02:57:02,630 --> 02:57:02,000
no no no no no no no no but you'll get

4551
02:57:06,630 --> 02:57:02,640
it

4552
02:57:09,670 --> 02:57:06,640
then

4553
02:57:11,269 --> 02:57:09,680
when you think about what's left after

4554
02:57:13,510 --> 02:57:11,279
what you do with it there'll be

4555
02:57:14,710 --> 02:57:13,520
something left and what's left i have a

4556
02:57:18,150 --> 02:57:14,720
request about

4557
02:57:20,230 --> 02:57:18,160
okay and it fits into a halloween theme

4558
02:57:21,990 --> 02:57:20,240
and i'll and when you reveal i'll tweet

4559
02:57:23,510 --> 02:57:22,000
it to you in the sandbox and that's

4560
02:57:25,269 --> 02:57:23,520
exactly what i'm talking about

4561
02:57:26,550 --> 02:57:25,279
all right deb thank you for the phone

4562
02:57:29,190 --> 02:57:26,560
call wow

4563
02:57:31,030 --> 02:57:29,200
um everybody that's on hold sorry about

4564
02:57:33,510 --> 02:57:31,040
that but that's the way it goes

4565
02:57:34,309 --> 02:57:33,520
or not that's the way it goes thank you

4566
02:57:36,150 --> 02:57:34,319
so much dad

4567
02:57:37,830 --> 02:57:36,160
he's hogging the phone again go back

4568
02:57:38,630 --> 02:57:37,840
with happy ginny we'll see you tomorrow

4569
02:57:41,910 --> 02:57:38,640
night thank you deb

4570
02:57:45,750 --> 02:57:41,920
go back happy bye and uh

4571
02:57:50,950 --> 02:57:45,760
uh a pool cleaner now isn't that

4572
02:57:53,990 --> 02:57:50,960
interesting huh

4573
02:57:56,150 --> 02:57:54,000
yeah i've got to find out about that and

4574
02:57:58,389 --> 02:57:56,160
and we'll see maybe they were planning

4575
02:58:00,550 --> 02:57:58,399
on going down there anyway

4576
02:58:01,670 --> 02:58:00,560
i don't know but let's see if i can make

4577
02:58:03,030 --> 02:58:01,680
a special

4578
02:58:04,950 --> 02:58:03,040
trip i don't know i don't know if

4579
02:58:08,070 --> 02:58:04,960
there's cameras already uh

4580
02:58:09,910 --> 02:58:08,080
in the pool uh room i don't know i'm

4581
02:58:12,630 --> 02:58:09,920
gonna find out i'm gonna find out

4582
02:58:14,630 --> 02:58:12,640
and i'll get back to everybody on that

4583
02:58:16,389 --> 02:58:14,640
but wouldn't that be cool

4584
02:58:17,830 --> 02:58:16,399
i have no idea tomorrow night we're

4585
02:58:21,030 --> 02:58:17,840
gonna have uh

4586
02:58:23,670 --> 02:58:21,040
aiden becca and susan on the show

4587
02:58:24,550 --> 02:58:23,680
and i will be able to ask them tomorrow

4588
02:58:27,110 --> 02:58:24,560
night

4589
02:58:28,550 --> 02:58:27,120
very very interesting what a great week

4590
02:58:30,389 --> 02:58:28,560
we've got lined up and

4591
02:58:33,110 --> 02:58:30,399
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4592
02:58:34,870 --> 02:58:33,120
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4593
02:58:36,870 --> 02:58:34,880
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4594
02:58:39,190 --> 02:58:36,880
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4595
02:58:41,269 --> 02:58:39,200
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4596
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4606
02:59:06,309 --> 02:59:03,359
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4607
02:59:08,630 --> 02:59:06,319
becca knight and susan slaughter we will

4608
02:59:10,710 --> 02:59:08,640
be discussing the queen mary and our

4609
02:59:12,870 --> 02:59:10,720
haunted weekend that is coming up

4610
02:59:14,950 --> 02:59:12,880
over halloween and then wednesday night

4611
02:59:18,309 --> 02:59:14,960
of course is the return

4612
02:59:19,030 --> 02:59:18,319
of richard dolan we will be doing all of

4613
02:59:21,830 --> 02:59:19,040
this

4614
02:59:24,389 --> 02:59:21,840
so much to discuss when it comes to ufos

4615
02:59:27,429 --> 02:59:24,399
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4616
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4617
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4618
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02:59:34,790 --> 02:59:32,720
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4635
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4643
03:00:22,389 --> 03:00:18,479
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4644
03:00:24,450 --> 03:00:22,399
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03:00:50,830 --> 03:00:24,460
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4648
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